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[-] BenVimes@lemmy.ca 36 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I don't want to get hopeful yet. I still think it'll be an uphill battle to keep Poilievre out of the PM's office. I'd want to see some consistent polling shifts across multiple sources before having any real hope.

That said, even if this as a vast overestimation of the Liberals' reversing fortunes, it could still be enough to eke out a small victory. Given how dire the polling was before Christmas, just holding the Conservatives to the slimmest of majorities could be considered a win of sorts

[-] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

I don’t put much stock in EKOS personally, so I’m waiting for additional polls too.

[-] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 20 points 3 days ago

That polling shift is intense. People really were just completely tired of Trudeau (myself included...).

[-] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 21 points 3 days ago

I'm sure a week of Trump hasn't helped Conservatives, either.

[-] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 days ago

Maybe if they said they'd fight for Canadians, but so far all they've done is said they won't use our best bargaining chips in public because it hurts their friends in the oil lobby.

Why should any Canadian support them?

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 25 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

How pathetic is it to respond to political difficulties by ramping up your persecution of trans people? I can't think of a lower move, except perhaps supporting any politician who does this.

[-] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Distractions. Distractions, distractions, distractions.

That's the whole conservative game on both sides of the border.

Get a boogeyman, focus your populace on the boogeyman while you do backdoor deals to increase you and your friends' personal wealth.

Sociopathic behaviour.

On that note, it should be illegal to hold an official position with a conflict of interest, such as owning real estate for investment purposes. It would theoretically keep rich people out of office.

[-] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 days ago

I just don’t know why that isn’t a total deal breaker to so many.

They’re not even asking for much (an X on their ID or updated gender, and a new name, and literally a pot to piss in). They’re not forcing themselves on anyone. They’re not privileged or oppressing anyone.

[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 30 points 3 days ago

It's almost like a 'not the other guy' platform lacks depth

[-] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 days ago

I can't think of anything that would give more of an appearance of weakness than setting demands on another party for who they'd install in cabinet if they won.

[-] ravshaul@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 days ago

Poilievre cannot be defeated if you attack him from the left. Everything from legacy media is to the left. Poilievre very much can be defeated if you hit him from the right.

[-] SamuelRJankis@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago

Everything from legacy media is to the left.

[-] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago

Hard disagree, on both points.

Legacy media is performatively left-leaning, but it's still beholden to monied interests. Nearly all newspapers have dropped their labour beat, and news stories regularly talk about the economy in the context of the state of the stock market rather than that of wealth inequality.

And just like Trump, Poilievre is only vulnerable on the left. Where do you think all of that support is coming from? They're not all gun-toting, women/minority-hating fascists. The vast majority of those who support the extreme right in Canada (and the US, and the rest of the world) are people who are hurting financially and whom the left have abandoned.

If you want to beat a right-wing populist, you have to fight for the working class. We need parties that fight for things like:

  • Building homes
  • Banning private jets
  • Banning money from politics
  • Rights for gig workers
  • Worker rights and union support in general
  • Food safety
  • Road safety
    • Ban monster trucks
    • Build cheap, safe transport for everyone
  • Universal health care
  • A wealth cap

The only thing Poilievre has going for him is the absolute rage people feel when politicians claiming to be "left-wing" get elected on "change" and then turn around and put the screws to those who have nothing left to give while wealth inequality continues to rise along with sea temperatures. He's an absolute weasel, but the left has so utterly failed to do its job, it's no surprise they're willing to vote for him -- he's the only one talking about how Canadians are suffering ffs.

  • Liberals: "The economy is doing great!"
  • NDP: "You may be working 3 jobs, but at least there's dental care!"
  • Conservatives: "Your life is shit and it's that brown person's fault!"

The way to win this is to try to salvage some credibility and come out against the oligarchs and corporations that are literally killing us. Demonstrate that you'll help balance things out. You need to turn Conservative rhetoric against them and be bold for a change. Be fucking angry on our behalf and demonstrate a willingness to solve the Big Problems.

Or they can lean to the right. It worked great for Biden/Harris. Oh wait.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago

If "legacy media" in this country is to the left of Poilievre that just means that Poilievre has gone off the right end. I mean, the legacy media includes such bastions of left politics as the National Post, the Globe and Mail, etc.

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