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https://x.com/roybelly/status/1882945942477029771

Context for the title, in case you're wondering: https://archive.is/UL7jK

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 129 points 1 week ago

Country that has never once given a shit about fire codes suddenly discovers an excuse to arbitrarily emiserate dozens of people.

[-] Bob_Robertson_IX@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago

This is a lot like how our government is all concerned about National Security™ when it comes to pretty much anything else, but a bipartisan bill, supported by both of the last 2 presidents, and upheld unanimously by our current dysfunctional Supreme Court, with National Security™ as the excuse, and we still have Tiktok.

Laws are only there so the ruling class can keep us in line and them in power, and they will never be enforced homogenously.

[-] Crazyslinkz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Exactly what do you thinks fines do! If you're rich, fines don't matter... if you're poor, go to jail for not being able to pay a fine.

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[-] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

People will say "I don't need God in my life to be a good person" out one side of their mouth, while out the other say, "People need laws and the state to be a good person." I'm an atheist just like them, I just go one god further.

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[-] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I'd love to talk shit about the current administration too, but I've been in buildings where fire inspectors would cut off the power cords of any space heaters they found because they violated code.

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[-] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 1 week ago

Reminds me of that story a couple of days ago about the homeless guy that got ran over by a bulldozer when they cleared out his tent to tidy up the city for MLK day. Nothing says you admire MLK like killing some poors, right?

[-] DanVctr@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago

And it happened in Atlanta, near Ebenezer Church of all places

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[-] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

Literally homeless crushing machine

[-] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago

Kinda surprised Americans don’t worship Constantine.

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

If they cared about history before 1776 they would.

[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago

The world was created only about 3000 years ago. There was no world before AMERICA

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

Isn't that the name of the Keanu Reeves movie about the guy who killed himself and now he's damned for all time and works for the Church, and the Archangel Gabriel was there, but he was played by a woman who kinda looks like the "perfect" chick from Fifth Element?

[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Comparing Tilda Swinton to Mila Jovavich is an interesting choice.

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[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 week ago
[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

Jesus turns water into wine. The human body is 70% water. Earth is like 60% water. Jesus was an alcoholic.

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago

TIL Jesus was probably 70% wine instead of 70% water

[-] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 week ago

...huh. Is that why he kept so well?

[-] SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 week ago

I used to be the same but then I sobered up somewhat and now I’m only 10% wine. (depending on the day.. usually 0%! Sometimes 90%..)

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

Does that mean Jesus could cause people to become intoxicated? Assuming he can control how much of the water gets turned into wine so he doesn't just immediately kill the person he could pull off some fun pranks.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

I mean.....thats how I took it when I went to catholic school.

Also in catholic school, they never did answer the question of why we drank jesus's blood, and ate his body. Why is that ok? And how did we STILL have so much left to go around so many centuries after his death?

These answers went unanswered to me in 2nd grade. I did get to hang out in the principals office though.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Catholic school wasn’t so bad. I got a good education. And when I went to college I saw all these kids from public high schools who didn’t know shit, asking dumbass questions. For all my general education requirements I hardly had to study anything. Also they should have taught you about trsnsubstsatiation which would answer your question. Even though it’s not “real”, it explains the concept in their belief system.

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[-] Stern@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago
[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 23 points 1 week ago

Trump is the great Deceiver, like Lucifer he casts a light in darkness, and just like Lucifer all who follow that light expecting to find freedom will only find damnation.

[-] AuroraZzz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Completely true. Now we just need to convince everyone else

[-] Bgugi@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

I know this is going to be a wildly unpopular opinion: regulations like these are written in blood. There was apparently no real effort to make the church properly habitable. People would be just as outraged (or more) if this headline was describing 18 charred bodies found in a burned down church that was REPEATEDLY told to do things the right way.

If this was anything other than performative or a malicious attempt to secure lawsuits and/or headlines, the church would have been updated, they would have secured an appropriate facility, or these people would be in the congregation's homes.

[-] qwertilliopasd@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago

regulations like these are written in blood

Absolutely 100% completely. But in this case it I'm not sure the church is actually violating codes, but rather the city is using the claim as a smokescreen to punish them for helping homeless people.

This article quotes the city.

Bryan's planning and zoning administrator gave the church 10 days to stop housing people, saying it was in a zone that does not permit residential use on the first floor.

[-] WraithGear@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago

The only thing worse then inadequate housing is no fucking housing in the winter

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[-] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

You're right, but people won't want to hear it. The people on the other side are right, too - it isn't better to freeze to death than it is to die from smoke inhalation. But you just don't violate fire code in public buildings, or people die. Anyone could list dozens of examples of this happening with tragic results after a basic web search.

The correct response to this situation would have been for the city government to assist the pastor in meeting the fire code, especially since he is providing a valuable public service by housing the people that nobody else wants to help.

Instead of a peaceful solution that probably would have been cheap to the taxpayer and could have been a PR bonus for the city, they chose to smack him with the letter of the law. Because people freezing to death in the streets isn't their fault, but people burning to death after the city overlooked a fire code violation would be. All they care about is their liability.

[-] ysjet@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

The problem is that this fire code wasn't written in blood, it was written in cash. The specific code they were violating was that commercial zones cannot house people on the first floor. That's it. There's no actual safety issue there.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Just so we're clear, that's the ground floor?

[-] ysjet@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Correct- in other words, the one that is fastest and easiest to get out of in the case of a fire.

[-] DaedalousIlios@pawb.social 10 points 1 week ago

I get the sentiment for this one, but the pastor in question is simply acting like they're above the law. Hemant Mehta (AKA "The Friendly Atheist") covered this story on his YouTube channel:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JrlUNGFVN4I&pp=ygUgVGhlIGZyaWVuZGx5IGF0aGVpc3Qgb2hpbyBwYXN0b3I%3D

The short of it is that where this pastor's church is set up is not in the right zone for housing people, the building isn't designed for it, and he's actually puttinf them in danger. And on top of having already been in trouble for this once, I found out in the process of finding the first video that he's still doing it!

That said, I still up-voted the post, because while the pastor is actually in the wrong, so is the state. There's zero reason why these people should have to resort to sheltering in a building that isn't safe just to avoid succumbing to the elements.

[-] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago

How can a building be safe at one point of the day, but suddenly unsafe during another? That sounds like an idiotic code designed to punish exactly this.

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[-] Juice@midwest.social 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

And then they discovered the true meaning of Christianity, not a story about the son of the Creator preaching and living faith, charity and humility, but a scheme to blame the murder of that prophet which was committed by the Romans who founded the church, on the ethnic group the prophet came from, the Jewish group which was historically enslaved and persecuted by the Romans.

The biggest myth in the bible isn't whether Jesus existed, or Adam and Eve ate of the fruit, tricked by the serpent (although establishing the reason for humanity's inherent evil, the whole justification for religious belief itself, according to some, is a big one). The biggest myth is the one that makes you the main perpetrator of your own suffering, while the victimizers live in palaces and mansions where most suffering can never touch them.

We should have listened when Nietzsche said "God is dead, and we have killed him." If we had listened maybe we would have asked what had replaced him. And if someone says "nothing" then they still believe the biggest myths of the bible.

[-] kava@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

If Jesus showed up he would be considered a radical woke liberal.

"Love your neighbor" somehow became report your neighbor to ICE

To be fair to Trump, ideology is always co-opted and interpreted however convenient. The Nazis were "socialist" after all. NK is a people's republic. etc

[-] infectoid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Remember that time a fake socialist was in power and locked up the real socialists‽

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

love is illegal in the US

[-] CgH10N4Co2@lemmy.cafe 7 points 1 week ago

There is no such thing as a "sin of empathy" and the dude who came up with that phrase is a fascist shitbag.

[-] uriel238 5 points 1 week ago

I dunno. Sithrak may be offended by empathy, kindness and compassion. He's a pain and misery kind of god.

[-] Ziro427@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

He is an insane god for insane times.

[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago
[-] yesman@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

"the sin of empathy" has been a Christian doctrine in conservative circles for a few years (at least since 2019).

Churches with universalist doctrines were supporting social change. The Christian reactionaries did their thing by organizing themselves in opposition to this change. Some particularly conservative Baptist called Rigney decided to avoid emacipatory arguments all together and attack what he saw as the pillar concept instead: empathy. 2019 https://ghostarchive.org/archive/UXWex

Also in classic reactionary style, he was cribbing off left thought. Empathy has been a target for criticism from the left going back to at least 2016. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Against_Empathy

I don't have theological opinions. But I feel like the culture I grew up in valued empathy maybe a little too much. I used to believe that people who did the horrible things lacked empathy. But that can't be a universal truth. I see people celebrating the cruelty in policies like mass deportation. You can't enjoy somebodies pain if you can't recognize it. I've also come to learn that being cruel to others can be pro-social.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

It really seems like they're on the verge of just accepting that they're evil but deciding that that's good

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Isaiah, verse 5:20, which says, "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; who put darkness for light, and light for darkness."

The Bible's just chock full of biting criticism and warnings against the behavior of people who pretend their hate and bigotry is a tradition they must follow.

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[-] prole 3 points 1 week ago

They should change the name of the "no true Scotsman" fallacy to "no true Christian." I swear, nobody relies on that shit more than they do.

[-] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

"The Sin of Empathy" would be a sweet rock band name except it's not really rock so it can be a punk band name.

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