It's not strictly true collage or university as it's know in the rest of the world, in the UK it's only Scotland that gets free tuition, not the rest of us, higher education which is 16-18 is free
In France, college is free only if you're from a underpriviledged social class, and only for a limited time.
I didn't qualify as "boursier", my tuition was around 400€/year through out bachlore and master degrees (école d'ingénieurs). It's not so expensive. I still was able to claim 90€/month of help for housing (CAF). My friends who qualified paid 0€ for tuition, and they also got more for housing but I don't remember how much. This was from 2011~2016.
In south Germany today, a foreigner, who can't claim any financial help, has to pay ~~3000~4000€/semester~~ 1500€/semester.
Still far far away from what education costs in USA from what I've heard.
Edit: Corrected the price of tuition in Germany.
Our local university charges $440/year for parking :/
How much is tuition?
Some have different tuition for if you're in state or from out of state, so around 10K usually for in state and around 20K for out of state, but some are 30K to 60K for the fancier universities in my state.
Foreigners from outside the EU pay between 3000€ and 4000€ by year (not semester) today in France, but licence, master and even PhD are cheaper than 400€ for European students. We are lucky, but still it's not free.
Not perfect but that's sooooo much better than throwing them in jail for cheap labor.
Came to say this. Most people in the UK have to pay tuition for university. There is a govt loan but you're still paying it, plus interest
Should be interest free. No reason for anyone to profit off higher education, other than the actual educators. Admin can suck a dick.
But renaming mountains and bodies of water are going to solve all of that, our orange god king told us so.
/s if it’s not obvious
I've never worked a single job in the US that didn't have sick and vacation hours. Granted it was like 5 seconds allowed every 7 years but still.
Neither of them are actually a legal requirement. What is offered is basically part of the "compensation package" (it's considered part of your pay) in the US. Also there are A LOT of jobs in the US that don't give paid sick time or vacation time, they are usually pretty far down the hierarchy though, and the jobs that do give paid time off typically don't give it to you until you have been employed there for at least a year.
I don't think this graphic is stating you cannot get any of these things in the US, but none of these things are guaranteed by the government.
i dont even have sick hours anymore its all pto. so if i get sick i just lose my vacation
And many jobs also pay you health insurance. But the point is that in other countries, social security is not attached to your employment. If you get fired, you receive unemployment and health care until you get your next job (details and quality of social system vary per country though).
Even if you have a job that pays for health insurance, it's still not as good as a universal health system with a single payer. There's deductibles to pay. In Canada, if I need to go to the ER, my biggest financial concern is paying for parking.
And even if you eliminate the deductibles, it's still not as good as a public health system because you also need to worry about whether a provider is in network and then your insurance company can just deny coverage because their whole point is to profit and not doing what their stated purpose is is an easy way to make more profit.
Canada actually has paid sick leave for a few years now. If I remember correctly, it’s federally mandated 10 paid sick days and 3 paid personal days.
Unfortunately, that’s at the federal level. Private companies are beholden to the provincial employment laws. A good example is Ontario, which had paid sick days but was repealed in 2018.
I often forget how bad my country folk have it in some places. I'm going to doxx myself a bit here.
I'm a service member in Canada. In my first 5 years of service I received 20 payed annual leave days. After 5 years of service I received 25. At a later date I will receive thirty.
I get every single federal holiday as well as provincial holiday for the province I'm posted to.
At any given time I can request up to 2 days of sick leave/mental health days without a doctor's note. After that I can be given any number of days off signed by a doctor.
If I have a death in the immediate family I can receive 7 days or more of grievance and compassionate leave authorised by a chaplain or my commanding officer.
Further to this, I get 100% dental coverage,my family gets 85%. I get $80k to go to university, $10k for professional development or college courses as well as a whole plethora of other benefits like free eye exams and subsidised glasses.
I want this for all of my countrymen. My (often conservative) countrymen do not want this for themselves. Why? The fact I get all this shows that the Canadian Government is willing to give these benefits to any Canadian. But they don't. Why?
I get these benefits because I was too young and dumb to do anything with my life but join the army?
UK has free college? Is that a joke?
Depending on your age, it is free. Need to slap some asterisks on the image with some sub notes.
Usually yanks seem to think that UK=England. For this narrative it would seem that the UK=Scotland
Yeah but what's the price of eggs in those countries?
Checkmate, libs 😎
Ours are probably more, but our chickens aren't kept in quite such horrific conditions
I believe only France is more expensive when adjusted.
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This is kinda misleading 'cause it portraits the UK as a Paradise and, well... Is the UK.
(Although, compared to USA, The UK is indeed a Paradise)
The world isn't this black and white, so you can't just compare things at a basic level like this
For example the Netherlands has intuition fee's for universities. It's about 2500 euro per student per year. I'd much rather have it free, but it's still nothing compared to the 50K or 100K some people pay for an American University
And the UK for that matter. You only get free education up to A Levels (18 years old).
If you want a degree then you pay for it.
Why is the British flag the pre-1801 one?
Because they're regressing.
Would you look at that, Brazil has all of those! The problem with UHC is that right wing politicians have been doing everything in their power to dismantle it ever since its inception.
The previous govt (fucking bozo) was also keen on "isn't it better to have some work and no rights, rather than having rights and no work?"
Public universities, while being free, often can only be attended by the well off, since class times might be all over the week (Monday morning, Tuesday afternoon, Wednesday morning AND night), fucking anyone that needs to work to sustain themselves.
Plenty of states offer free community and state college admission for residents; not saying the chart isn't right (and sad) but I hate the stigma that the only good colleges are for-profit private ones.
Asterisk on Canada’s not free post secondary
The majority of the cost is paid for citizens so it’s still better than the US
Trash country. Trash electorate.
Indeed, but nothing is for free and we pay for the so-called "free" services through taxes. Yes, the 1st Class EU members are way ahead of the piss poor US labor laws and public services. Thanks to the MAGAts, working conditions will become 3rd World.
One matter, the blue-collar apprenticeship system in Germany is outstanding and the only organization that comes close are the trade unions in the USA, but it depends on which local you are in. Some are superb and some are WTF.
Yes healthcare is paid for via taxes so it isn't strictly speaking isn't free, but it also isn't the same as paying for health insurance. For one thing you don't pay more money just because you've got a Pre-Existing medical condition. In a way everyone pays less because all of the people that would otherwise pay for private healthcare, still pay the taxes, so everyone else is being subsidized by the rich, who in the US wouldn't contribute to anyone else's healthcare.
I don't think anyone ends up paying more in taxes than they would if we operated under the US private health care system.
So while your point is strictly speaking true, it's also a bit pedantic.
No disrespect to the guy individually but "it's not free, it's paid for by taxes" is mentioned every single time when this conversation comes up.
Everybody knows. Nobody actually thinks these these things appear out of thin air. We all know how taxes pay for public services and employment rights.
Well, there's one country I'm not moving to. It amuzes me that a first world country, hell, a global superpower, doesn't have any of that stuff, it would benefit everyone, especially free healthcare because you wouldn't have to worry about going bankrupt just to get that surgery you know you need. It doesn't even have to be free, just making it affordable for everyone is already a huge step.
FYI, many Americans do have many of these things, they just aren't mandated or evenly distributed to all citizens.
It's still fucked, though.
College is almost free in Québec, CA. You just pay administration fees, I believe around 200-300$ CAD for a semester.
Wait usa doesn't have any of that? Lefties, let them have the country, it was never worth a damn anyway.
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