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It's not strictly true collage or university as it's know in the rest of the world, in the UK it's only Scotland that gets free tuition, not the rest of us, higher education which is 16-18 is free
In France, college is free only if you're from a underpriviledged social class, and only for a limited time.
I didn't qualify as "boursier", my tuition was around 400€/year through out bachlore and master degrees (école d'ingénieurs). It's not so expensive. I still was able to claim 90€/month of help for housing (CAF). My friends who qualified paid 0€ for tuition, and they also got more for housing but I don't remember how much. This was from 2011~2016.
In south Germany today, a foreigner, who can't claim any financial help, has to pay ~~3000~4000€/semester~~ 1500€/semester.
Still far far away from what education costs in USA from what I've heard.
Edit: Corrected the price of tuition in Germany.
Our local university charges $440/year for parking :/
How much is tuition?
Some have different tuition for if you're in state or from out of state, so around 10K usually for in state and around 20K for out of state, but some are 30K to 60K for the fancier universities in my state.
That's per year or total?
I'm pretty sure it's per year, it's been a while since I looked at tuitions but the in / out of state tuitions for my school (8k and 33k) match what they list on the schools website for a full academic year for in and out of state students.
That's just tuition so it doesn't include cost of the dorm (8k), meal plans (5 or 6k depending on the level), and books (estimated $700), among other fees and stuff.
Man you were severely lowballing this. By like a significant margin.
Foreigners from outside the EU pay between 3000€ and 4000€ by year (not semester) today in France, but licence, master and even PhD are cheaper than 400€ for European students. We are lucky, but still it's not free.
It sure is not free. I am very fortunate it didn't have to worry about money during my studies, as my parents were supporting me. But for my friend who was "boursier" and didn't have to pay anything for the tuition, he still had to go in debt in order to have money for all the essentials (groceries, gas, etc). Studying engineering in France it not something you can do while having a part time job. We had around 35h of classes per week not including self study, practicing for exams and the almost mandatory parties :D
Yeah, no, livving isn't free. You aren't paid to study. However the loans offered, at least in Sweden, are at the lowest interest found. They even beat public sector interest rates. So you'd be hard pressed to find better terms.
Imagine having to pay 20-30k extra per year on top of that. Unless you are ambitious...
Almost mandatory?!
I’m a foreigner without access to financial aid paying ~€400/semester in middle Germany for a master’s degree (bachelor’s is €100/semester less). Granted, I’m now married to a German, but I wasn’t when I started the program and the cost didn’t change when I got married.
I would honestly shop around a little if I were you, other universities should be much cheaper. Unless you’re including rent, I guess.
After asking more precise information to the concerned person: Stuttgart university, non-EU foreigner has to pay 1500€/semester. If married to EU citizen, it becomes 190€/semester.
That’s insanely expensive and they should probably transfer (edit: I don’t know them or their situation, maybe they’re happy with it, but they could certainly save money elsewhere). Lots of businesses target wealthy and/or desperate foreigners, and that sounds like there’s something funky going on. I didn’t even meet my husband until I was partway through my studies and I’m not an eu citizen, so it’s not because of that.
I’ve learned that if something is too geared towards foreign students, I’m probably getting taken advantage of somehow, because it’s really disturbingly common. I’m lucky, in that I don’t stick out much (tall, pale, and with a super German sounding name) and I’ve got C2 German and a background in contracts, and I’m still frequently seen as an easy mark by landlords, cell phone services, banks (?!), and other businesses with variable and opaque pricing.
More than 2 decades ago, that was just about the cost of community college (2 year associates degree).
Not perfect but that's sooooo much better than throwing them in jail for cheap labor.
Came to say this. Most people in the UK have to pay tuition for university. There is a govt loan but you're still paying it, plus interest
Should be interest free. No reason for anyone to profit off higher education, other than the actual educators. Admin can suck a dick.
The USA also has states that have free college, which is done with lottery funds.
Yeah probably better to say we have a state run loans system, with fair repayment terms, that any resident is entitled to. So better than some countries but still not free.
Higher education is 16-18? That’s still included in our compulsory education in the US. Can children choose to drop out at 16 there?
How it works in the UK:
College is actually akin to high-school in the UK, and is tuition free but university is not. The person who made this graphic probably googled 'free college UK' and didn't understand the word means something different there
Not legally, but some of them do. You need to be in some form of education until you turn 18
It’s probably a vernacular thing then. In the US, 16-18 is “secondary education” and college is considered “higher education”
In the UK, secondary education is 11-16, further education is 16-18 and higher education is after that.
When I was in secondary education you could leave at 16.
But to confuse things even more, colleges are places to go from 16, not to be confused with sixth-forms which do much the same thing, but are attached to secondary education schools.