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submitted 5 days ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

Summary

Elise Stefanik, President Trump’s nominee for U.S. ambassador to the UN, stated during her confirmation hearing that Israel has a "biblical right" to the occupied West Bank, aligning with far-right Israeli officials.

Stefanik sidestepped support for Palestinian self-determination, blaming their leadership for failures.

Her stance signals a shift from Biden-era opposition to Israeli settlements, with Trump lifting sanctions on Israeli settler groups and nominating pro-settlement figures like Mike Huckabee for key roles.

Stefanik also vowed to audit UN funding and block aid to Palestinian refugee agencies.

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[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 152 points 5 days ago

We did it, Patrick. We saved Palestine.

[-] towerful@programming.dev 72 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Kamala would've nuked it.
You know, hormones and the predisposition to genocide, or whatever.
Great work everyone.
As a bonus, we get to:


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[-] Gloomy@mander.xyz 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Declare everyone as biologically female (because at inception, all embryos are female. It's only after 6-7 weeks that the y chromosome kicks in an makes it biologically male. (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK222286/, https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/defending-women-from-gender-ideology-extremism-and-restoring-biological-truth-to-the-federal-government/ - note the "at conception" points)).

As somebody who has done courses in gender studies it is painful how plain wrong and unscientific this is. Sure will be true for a lot of the other ones (especially climate). The sex ideology one (and contrary to their claim they of course are the ones with an ideology, because that is what you have when you ignore reality and make up your own truth based on falsehood) will do a lot of harm on the short term. There are real people out there who's whole existence just got denied. My heart goes out (without a Sieg Heil, but in an empatic way) to all the Transpeople, Intersex People, Non-Binary People and all others who just got their identity denied. Please stay safe and hold tight. There are sane cis people out here who know you exist and stand by your side. For what ever that will be worth in the time to come.

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[-] rigatti@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago

Correction on your one point - they declared that everyone is neither male nor female, since no one at conception produces reproductive cells. That starts happening later.

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[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago
[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 23 points 5 days ago

I'm surprised you're still here, to be honest. Yes, I know what Palestine is like right now. I care a lot about it. I wrote my congresspeople, back when they were approving the aid, trying to tell them not to do it. I didn't think it would do anything, and it didn't. That's why I didn't want Trump to come, and make things quite a bit worse than even Biden's already war-criminal level of performance.

Around 85% of the Palestinians in Gaza are still alive right now, as far as I know. How many once Trump is done with them?

50%?

80%? Will he solve the Middle East during his term, and bring an end to the killing? It seems unlikely.

Less than 10%, with a lot of it annexed to Israel?

That last one seems pretty probable to me. I think better than 50/50 odds. I don't want to bet.

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[-] seathru@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 5 days ago

Let the shoulder patting commence.

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 31 points 5 days ago

As recently as yesterday, someone on Lemmy was showcasing to me the cease-fire Trump skillfully engineered in Gaza, with his straight-talking diplomatic skills, as an example of what Biden could have been doing any time he felt up to getting on Trump's level, and a reason why Trump was better.

[-] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

I had the same thing happen. The idiot then quoted Sartre at me, the one about anti-Semites, as a sorta gotcha. Called me a BlueAnon, and told me that it was even more shameful I was one because I'm Canadian. Literally all I'd said was that the Biden administration negotiated the cease fire. Honestly? It was kinda funny watching them wind themselves up to a froth.

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[-] ptz@dubvee.org 102 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

You know what the bible also says, Elise?

"I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.

-- 1 Timothy 2:12

Please STFU Elise Stefanik as is your biblical right, nay duty, thus sayeth your lord.

[-] Lennny@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

According to the white house you're a woman too. As gender is now assigned at conception ... Stupid penis taking 8 weeks to start appearing in utero.

[-] Badland9085@lemm.ee 14 points 5 days ago

Knowing how these people behave, it’s “rules for thee, not for me”, and “yes that’s true but every woman should follow, but I’ll continue to say whatever the fuck I want anyways”. Cognitive dissonance on the surface level does not stop them. It’s always been a “I will say whatever the fuck I want and hide behind some pretty words, and all I have to do is to ignore your criticisms. You can’t touch me.”

[-] Whateley@lemm.ee 29 points 4 days ago

I wish I could live to see the day where citing the Bible in support of an argument gets you laughed out of the fucking room.

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[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago

Just imagine what would be happening right now if we had elected that horrible genocide supporting Kamala instead!

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

You don't understand, the job numbers were going up on her watch. But they were SOFT jobs numbers!

[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 9 points 4 days ago

IKR. So many palestinians shouting to the mountains for their saviors who abstained for their sakes.

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 95 points 5 days ago

therefore american indians have a birthright to 100% of the united states, right? right?

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 46 points 5 days ago

Doesn't say so in the Bible though, tough luck.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 13 points 5 days ago

Not in that new-old-fashioned one, but the Book of Mormon's got them covered.

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago

No, no, not like that. The whites had manifest destiny!

[-] SnotFlickerman 20 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Mormons seen nervously filing away all that "Native Americans are the lost tribes of Israelites" real quickly.

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[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 33 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

In that case, Spain has a divine right to all parts of the US west of the Tordesillas Meridian. The pope said so.

[-] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago

FREE PALESTINE 🇵🇸🙏

[-] prof_wafflez@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

What's left of it anyway : /

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 37 points 4 days ago

The bible is just a story book, and if you take it so seriously that you support what is happening over there right now then you're fucked.

Fight me.

[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago

Then don’t be surprised about Muslims following the Quran to the letter

• Surah Al-Hajj (22:39-40)

“Permission [to fight] has been given to those who are being fought, because they were wronged. And indeed, Allah is competent to give them victory. [They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right—only because they say, ‘Our Lord is Allah.’ …”

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 38 points 5 days ago

Lots of comments trying to sanewash an actual genocide. Humanity is not a team sport.

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[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 21 points 4 days ago

Remember everyone, the "ceasefire" that Trump "negotiated" (wink wink) is in no way just a temporary distraction, he's better for Gaza than Dems could ever have been.

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 12 points 4 days ago

They haven't even stopped killing. Most of the death at this point is from injury, disease, and starvation, and I'm sure they are still not letting any food come in. And they've still been shooting people. And they did an air strike on a refugee camp in the West Bank yesterday, too, which they had been leaving alone for the most part.

Presumably, they'll keep doing that until someone shoots at the IDF, at which point it will suddenly become a big deal that "Hamas broke the ceasefire" and they'll resume unapologetically shooting people at scale. Starvation and disease, meanwhile, will be doing their gruesome work throughout, unabated.

I don't honestly know whether Netanyahu engineered the timing on purpose, to give an opportunity for craven propaganda outlets to make a big fanciful noise about what a genius Trump is because he fixed Palestine, unlike that loser Joe Biden. I could see it either way: It would cost him nothing, but on the other hand, why bother? I'm not sure he really cares what people say about Trump. Either way, he gets what he wants.

[-] peregrin5@lemm.ee 10 points 4 days ago

It's okay. At least blue maga and genocide Joe have been punished. This is worth Palestine being crushed into the dirt.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 14 points 4 days ago

Bible is not historically accurate. (≖_≖ )

[-] SirQuackTheDuck@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

A work of fiction isn't historically accurate?

I'm shocked, absolutely shocked, I tell you!

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago

These fucking cunts either pretend to believe in fairy tales or really do believe in fairy tales, and I’m not sure which is worse.

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[-] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 19 points 5 days ago

what a disgusting thing to say.

[-] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 19 points 5 days ago

And so has Russia to the Donbas, and so has China to Taiwan, and so has North Korea to South Korea, ans so has Germany to Silesia and Prussia and so have native Americans to America.

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[-] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Sectarian violence should have no place in a secular government

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[-] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 14 points 4 days ago
[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

So they don't have a right to it is what you're saying.

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

It's barely in the Torah, and it's sure as shit not in the bibble.

[-] Scavenger_Solardaddy@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 days ago

Trump And the Gang...as a non north American, i knew my investment on a popcorn machine wouldn't go to waste! Need so much popcorn for the next 5 years watching Trump's shenanigans and the (north) American people doing nothing irl except commenting on social media about his BS and how things could have been better. WAKE UP MOFOS! This guy's gonna destroy your country! This is no time to be a keyboard warrior!

[-] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago

There is not much we can do about it at this point. The citizens have made their choice. And the ones that made the choice are the ones with the most guns.

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[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 days ago

That’s a fun way to say no right at all but Israel probably disagrees

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