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I have a close friend that I've known 20 years who became obsessed with right-wing politics. even though I'm liberal, I don't make it my entire personality and life. But anyway... I was talking to him this morning casually like friends do.

Me: "Hey man. Do you have off today for MLK day?" Friend: "No, I have to work today." Me: "Damn, sorry to hear. I have off today since it's a company holiday." Friend: "Yeah, I work for a living. Guess that's the difference me and people who live in an ivory tower." Me: "Uhh I work for a living too. Idk why you're acting like I don't?" Friend: "I didn't mean you specifically. But you’re off and I’m not so it shows that you get to relax at least. You should be able to handle the truth lol. There's no shame in admitting that I'm a harder worker than everyone else. you shouldn't be so sensitive"

Honestly, he's not unique, either. I've met so many people who are conservative, obsessed with right-wing stuff, and they're all like this. They act like they're special and the whole world is lazy, "no one wants to work anymore" attitude.

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[-] PanArab@lemm.ee 24 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

He is exploited and dumb enough to think being exploited makes him better.

Their bitterness comes from being exploited. The stupidity is in deluding themselves that they are hard workers instead of Luiging their boss.

[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago

lol brainwashed as fuck. Who the fuck brags about being forced to work hard? Bet he doesn’t have anything to show for it. Not working hard and living a comfortable life is a bigger flex than breaking your back to earn money for the boss

Bet he thinks there is a reward at the end. Nope. Boss wil fuck him over and there is no heaven.

[-] GooberEar@lemmy.wtf 11 points 7 hours ago

I was vising a family over the weekend. I mentioned that the only reason I had time to make it over to their house to help them with some work this weekend was because I was off on Monday for MLK day.

Their response was to scoff and roll their eyes while sarcastically saying "mLk daY".

It's stereotypical yet anecdotal, but they stopped working in their 50s and moved around the country shopping for states that would grant them disability. Other than a short-term odd job here and there, they haven't had a job since. But yes, they are exactly the same folks that complain how nobody wants to work anymore and it's everyone else who is lazy.

[-] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

If only MLK day was set on the Tuesday next after the first Monday in November.

What better day for people to have off to celebrate. Oh and every 4 years they would be off work so they can vote too!

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 28 points 9 hours ago

Friend doesn't get a day off, complains about the "ivory tower" of those that get a holiday, instead of blaming his boss and/or company for being a souless machine grinding his bones to dust for 3 extra pennies that quarter.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 17 points 8 hours ago

Then proceeds to vote for the side that's telling them they're not working hard enough.

[-] PanArab@lemm.ee 1 points 6 hours ago
[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 26 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

It's not "why are they like this?" but rather "who has made them like this?"

Who has a vested interest in creating a generation of people who take a perverse personal pride in working themselves to death so somebody else can get rich? Hmm, tough one...

I wouldn't even mind if the ultra rich were doing something with that money, but they just hoard it. Elon Musk could have a giant fortress in the shape of a skull, but instead he just goes home and cheats at videogames. I can do that for next to nothing!

[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 8 points 12 hours ago

The people who did it are the same wealthy anti-progressive, anti-New Dealers who hated how the government did so many programs that didn't just work, but worked brilliantly. I need to mention that not all New Deal programs survived, but most of the ones that were cut were done so due to early concerted opposition to them and nothing organic.

No joke, it is a combination of old ideas and opposition to new ideas.

[-] drascus@sh.itjust.works 12 points 11 hours ago

Yeah I have a friend that does this too. They try to do it to me and I'm just like ... I don't care working is fucking annoying and jobs suck. I just do it to fuck with them but it always blows their damn mind lol.

[-] lurklurk@lemmy.world 16 points 13 hours ago

They're sad insecure people who try to find self worth by looking down on others, which is hard work for a bottom feeder

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 30 points 16 hours ago

I notice that those enamoured by the right are-- there is no other way to put it-- insecure. We all got insecurities, but I think the right has managed to tap that and groom them.

The thing with this attitude of feeling special that they work excessively is precisely the right has groomed them to be part of something bigger. And humans, but not all, naturally yearn for social acceptance and wanting to be part of something big. These folks feel that their contribution counts for something. The right has tapped that feeling, but for sinister purpose unfortunately. In the case of your friend, it just so happens that a fake wannabe right wing university, which shall not be named, has a video imploring viewers that work is good and that it is the ultimate goal. It makes you feel special. No buddy, the only person who you make feel special is yourself for grooming individuals to be mindless workers who will not question longer hours with no extra pay.

[-] Denjin@lemmings.world 9 points 11 hours ago
[-] Denjin@lemmings.world 6 points 11 hours ago

Tranalation: "Work Will Set You Free" written above the entrance to Auschwitz.

[-] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

Disown them immediately.

I am serious.

Nothing good will come of this. He us announcing his resentment of you and it WILL get worse.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 29 points 17 hours ago

What the fuck is he on about? Ivory towers? It's a fucking federal holiday for Christ's sake.

[-] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

Its for a black guy

[-] Naia 23 points 19 hours ago

I guarantee he is projecting how little he works on others. Every accusation these people make is a confession.

And yes, even the "why do you have to make it your entire personality?" is projection. As much of a cult as maggots are, I think the only real difference is trump is too stupid to use the usual double speak politicians were using before and the base that always was out for blood ate it up. He also gave them phrases and symbols to plaster over all their stuff.

Yet they will claim someone having a single pride sticker on their car or flag outside their house is "shoving it in their face" while they drive down the road with a 2 or more flags I their car, along with countless number stickers, and a house covered in at least a half dozen flags and signs.

And no, I'm not exaggerating. I see these trucks (always a shitty truck) and houses regularly where I currently live, and I'm fleeing in a month as I'm queer and one of their targets.

[-] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago

Goodbye "friend"

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 9 points 17 hours ago

I dont think it is specific to conservatives. People who define their identity through their political views tend to be like this, regardless of their political views.

I have experienced similiar behaviour with people who identified as leftists, anarchists, feminists as much as with people who identify as conservatives, liberals...

The annoying thing is, that you cannot respectfully disagree with them on anything anymore, because they perceive it as an attack on themselves directly.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 47 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You've got it backwards. Toxic and aggressive people become conservatives (in Anglo countries) because it serves them emotionally.

Occasionally one is too queer to successfully do that, and have to find an alternate outlet, like stanning for North Korea or something.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago

idk, I know a gay conservative. Extremely stupid and selfish. He's not even "normal gay" or whatever. He's like some caricature out of a 90's sitcom. Him and his boyfriend have the most toxic, untrusting relationship. I avoid him as much as possible.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Yeah, I've heard of that. Like, who's that guy with the Greek name? I've also heard of gay fascists flip-flopping to the Wakanda North Korea thing.

Also, shout out to the gay weed-growing libertarians who get lumped in with fascists as "conservative". I see you.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

"I'd like to have time to start/spend with my family" -thats all you have to say. Too much work time collapses society.

[-] Whateley@lemm.ee 29 points 1 day ago

Reminds me of this dipshit I saw in a Starbucks once wearing one of those anti-welfare t shirts. He spent a good 20 minutes bragging to this poor young woman working the counter about how hard of a worker he is and that people on welfare are parasites.

When she asked him what he did, he sheepishly responded that he did a few hours a week of per diem work at UPS. She just rolled her eyes and asked him if he needed anything in that "buy something or get fuck out" tone.

After he left, she started talking to another employee about how much of a tool he was. The other coworker responded that he pulls this goofy anti-welfare ranting shit to try and impress new girls and that he actually lives with his parents and collects state aid himself.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 11 points 20 hours ago

Correct

It's a shame because if Conservatives would just look at who they're supporting for five seconds, instead of going "He's not a filthy librul." they'd realize they stole the Ivory Tower from themselves.

[-] Lumelore 50 points 1 day ago

Hate, insecurity, intolerance, and ignorance are the foundation of their ideology. I'm not proud of myself at all for this, but I got sucked into the pipeline when I was a young teen. However I am proud to say that I did fortunately manage to pull myself out of it and I'm now a socialist.

While I hate that I got sucked in, it does give me a lot of insight into why they are the way they are. They start by targeting common insecurities which they use to lure people in, and then they feed them lies while appealing to those insecurities. For example, I remember being a lonely teen and watching mgtow 🤮 videos and the gist of the videos was that if you joined their "movement" that you would get laid all the time, and of course that video was ridden with a shitload of misogyny and lies. Then from there it snowballs into more and more hatred and lies.

Conservatives are just sad, narcissistic losers who are incapable of understanding that people need to lift each other up rather than putting each other down. That's why conservatives like to brag, because they think putting others down is how they get lifted up.

Being knowledgeable is a good defence against their tactics since their lies become obvious and it quickly becomes evident that they are fools.

[-] Glent@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The secret sauce at fox news is flattering dumb people, telling them they are smart. Smarter than those woke professors, doctors, scientists. "Youre a free thinker, you see right through the deep state lies, you know the real deal and dont fall for their propaganda........etc." If you can flatter a moron into thinking they are smart, you can literally program them like a manchurian candidate or robot.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

Yall are in the best position to deradicalize them. And while it wasn't good you got sulked in, they were actively targeting people like you to suck you in

[-] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 153 points 1 day ago

The funniest thing about conservatives is how they'll complain the left are a bunch of snowflakes, but you say a single word like trans and they'll probably explode into a million pieces because you said a bad word that scares them.

[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 90 points 1 day ago

I was reading a standard celebrity obituary article the other day. It was an actor nobody really remembers and it mentioned his family and the shows he was on.

In the comments someone said something like:

I don't know why you had to mention his husband!!! Why does everything have to be so woke?

Sure, pal, if he had married a woman, everything would be ok, but since he had a husband, we need to pretend that he doesn't exist around you so you don't feel icky?

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[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago

It is good to be moist, even better than being flaky

[-] Skyline969@lemmy.ca 169 points 1 day ago

If you’ve known him for 20 years he should respect you enough that you can tell him he’s being a cunt. Coming from you it should mean something, and maybe he’ll take a look at himself. I’m friends with some right wingers who are decent people but folks like that need to be called out.

[-] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 78 points 1 day ago

I’m friends with some right wingers who are decent people.

?

"right wingers" or "decent people"

Choose one, because they are mutually exclusive.

[-] JayDee@lemmy.world 18 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

You can still be charismatic, a good neighbor, someone who stands up for friends when things start getting rough, a caring person that worries about those around them, and still hold the most batshit insane political ideas. I happen to know multiple people like this.

People are complex, and plenty are good people who have been led to believe the most outlandish shit. They are gullible and don't put enough thought into what they accept as truth. It is just as attractive to people on our side of the fence to paint everyone else with broad assumptions. It is the nature of Evil, because evil is ultimately a boring thing that we all do every day without thinking about it.

[-] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 23 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I think the difference is between our definitions of "decent people", because I don't think a person gets to be called "decent" simply because they can be nice, pleasant, thoughtful, or helpful to only the people who abide by their personal world views while actively trying to make life worse for people who don't meet their bigoted qualifications.

Yeah, they can sure seem like "decent people" if you're not on the receiving end of their bigoted ire.

[-] JayDee@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

It's not even that they only accept people that abide by their views - it's just that they are oblivious to those outside the scope of their lives. They are not people who hate immigrants or other minorities, they're people who never interact with minorities at all and so get no pushback when they just passively accept the idea that they are stealing all the jobs in the US. They don't know any trans people and so when they hear that trans people are groomers, they just go "that's horrible! Someone should do something about that".

We need to remember that these people are a large portion of half the US we constantly have to fight against. They're not all just a hateful swarm, there's variety within that mass. They're our relatives and our neighbors. A large amount of these people are really just insanely gullible and don't see past their own noses. That gullibility is a mark on their quality, yes. They can still be decent human beings, despite that. They can also be corrected if you get them to understand, which I've done before. Many others have done the same.

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago

Typical conservative reply: it’s your fault you’re offended that I was an asshole.

[-] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 10 points 22 hours ago

People who deliberately ignore struggles that others outside their immediate community experience, especially ones that they cause themselves, don't deserve to be listened to

[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago

Having a work ethic is one thing. But it isn’t inherently satisfying to the ego unless you feel yours is better than others’, and lord it over them. Some people just can’t maintain their motivation without this.

This guy could learn a lot from women. The world is full of women who bust their ASS and never complain or brag or get a single second of recognition.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 59 points 1 day ago

The conservative people that run my job think they're funny or something. We get a the standard holidays off but if the 4th of July or whatever falls near a weekend they'll swap another holiday to make it a 4 day weekend.

The only holidays they "trade away" are MLK day and Juneteenth... Funny that.

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[-] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Very moist. Very toxic. Like a 20 year old mattress, saturated in bacon grease and peppered with dip-spit.

[-] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 89 points 1 day ago

you shouldn’t be so sensitive

Imagine being so sensitive that someone else having a day off sends you into a insecure tirade about how hard you work. Ditch that loser. Life is too short.

[-] SatanClaus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 1 day ago

What a loser. I hate people like this. We are all working hard you fucking dunce. Get your head out of your ass.

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[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 day ago

There is no better measure of your worth to a conservative than how many hours you are willing to work in support of the 1% becoming even richer.

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