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[-] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 160 points 9 months ago

This shit is straight up evil, will the company be held accountable for their crimes? This is what our justice system is for. Based on what we know so far, more crimes would be bound to come out in an investigation.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 62 points 9 months ago

Even if they’re held to account there just gonna Texas two step and declare bankruptcy.

And then spin up another subsidiary and start over,

[-] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 38 points 9 months ago

I wish it wasn't the case. "Corporations are people too should go both ways... Death penalty if you do evil enough crimes.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

I will believe that, "corporations are people," the moment that Texas executes one.

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[-] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 17 points 9 months ago

Individuals who committed these crimes on behalf of the company should be charged with fraud a the very least.

[-] Lon3star@lemmy.world 44 points 9 months ago

The justice system that just allowed a convicted criminal to run out the clock on a heinous crime and become president

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[-] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 39 points 9 months ago

Luigi held them accountable, let’s hope for more

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 17 points 9 months ago
[-] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 10 points 9 months ago

Did he though? The company is still doing all this shit and making tons of money.

Sure, they publicly mourned him and condemned the killing, but they also went right back to business, making cash hand over fist with no pause or real consideration to what they are doing to their customers at all.

[-] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Well if the public keeps hearing that they overcharged patients 1000% and that he was CEO during 51,000 denials for life saving health care it may get the jury to not prosecute. Which in turn would mean change your practices or it may be open season on Healthcare executives.

I imagine overhauling their practices and publicly trying to show they are changing them may ensure he gets charged and then they would have to try to float back to ripping people off quietly.

Odds he walks are slim, odds he walks and they don't change their practices which leads to more executives deaths is higher from the outrage I've seen

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[-] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 31 points 9 months ago

It’s not the justice system, it’s the legal system

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[-] datavoid@lemmy.ml 15 points 9 months ago

From where I'm sitting, the justice system seems to be more interested in investigating poor individuals than rich companies. I can't think of many modern examples of rich companies (or even people) being held accountable for something that didn't involve stealing from other rich people.

[-] Vertelleus@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 months ago

US Government: Best I can do is a slap on the wrist to the tune of about 0.0000001% of their yearly profits and a hardy, "don't do that."

[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 134 points 9 months ago

When will we start holding these people accountable? It is easy to say "corporations are bad" and then sit on your hands. It's different to start calling out the people who ultimately make the corporations evil.

We have whole classes of people comfortable fucking people over -- sometimes with deadly consequences.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 25 points 9 months ago

“We” as in society, the government, and the legal system, will never hold them accountable.

Shielding against personal responsibility and liability is one of the bedrock features of American corporations. Piercing the corporate veil is the rare exception and is seen as a big deal. And that’s because the veil protects rich people.

“We” as in highly motivated individuals who may or may not have a plumbing company with their brother, seem the most likely to do something about it.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Well, the Law is supposed to protect us from Bad People, or so they and the powerful tell us again and again (and again, and again, and again).

Of course, in reality as the Ju$tice System's reaction to Luigi's action compared to their reaction to abusive and even murderous actions done by those hidden behind UnitedHealth makes painfully obvious, the Law mostly protects powerful Bad People from our reaction to those people doing Bad Things.

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[-] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 75 points 9 months ago

America is going to miss Lina Khan a lot in the next 4 years.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 37 points 9 months ago

Probably the best part of the biden administration. But let's be real, the oligarchs were making moves to replace her either way.

[-] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 17 points 9 months ago

Same as Katie Porter. Her white board was awesome for Americans, but also her death knell.

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[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 68 points 9 months ago
[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 64 points 9 months ago

Just fucking write “tenfold”, Jesus fuck.

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[-] Smashfire@lemmy.world 55 points 9 months ago
[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 34 points 9 months ago
[-] SaintWacko@slrpnk.net 50 points 9 months ago
[-] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 21 points 9 months ago

Why are people struggling with this so hard?

[-] JoeyHarrington@lemmy.ca 49 points 9 months ago

Because it's a stupid, non standard way to say it. I understood it fine but I still thought it was a needless abbreviation.

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[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago

Why are you not upset by it?

[-] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 months ago

Because the meaning is obvious?

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago

It’s literally the stupidest possible way to write it

[-] Voyajer@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Not when M% exists

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[-] Steve@communick.news 34 points 9 months ago

10x what they should've paid

[-] workerONE@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yeah 1000% is 10x but they were charged 11x what they should have paid. Overcharged by (over) 10x.

[-] Hawke@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

11 times what they should have paid unless you think that “overcharging by 100%” would be charging exactly the right price or if you feel that all medication should be ~~free~~ somewhat cheaper. Or more expensive. Whichever way the math works for that.

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[-] kingshrubb@lemmy.ml 26 points 9 months ago

Horrible. A family member of mine needs a medication called Tolvaptan according to their doctor to prevent kidney failure due to a genetic disease.

From drugs.com: "The cost for tolvaptan (15 mg oral tablet) is approximately $4,482 for a supply of 10 tablets, while the brand Jynarque can cost around $21,238 for a supply of 56 tablets, depending on the pharmacy. Prices may vary based on factors like location and insurance coverage."

15mg is the lowest dose of this medication too. Often the dose is 30mg or 45mg, up to 60mg max.

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[-] Veedem@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago

Unchecked capitalism is really something, huh?

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[-] distantsounds@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago
[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

Please don't violate LW's ToS. Be aware of what you're posting publicly. This is not a bar with your friends. This is the internet where things are recorded forever and can possibly link back to you/us with consequences. It's not that hard to express yourself without breaking the rules.

[-] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago

What did they do that broke ToS? It looks like the post may have been edited

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Nothing yet. I'm just hoping people think a little before they do things to get banned/removed. The rules are for everyone's benefit.

This is a post that will rightfully make people angry.

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[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

So people are going to jail over this and proper hard measures are going to be taken to address the obvious imbalance of power that allows companies like this to do this over and over again right? They're not just going to give the company another slap on the wrist fine that won't even cover how much money they've stolen from people, leaving them still making a profit for doing this and leaving the door wide open for more abuse like that to happen over and over again, right?

Right?

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