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The Louisiana Republican said he thinks the charges related to the former president’s mishandling of classified documents after he left office are “almost a slam dunk."

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[-] RojoSanIchiban@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago

Anyone capable of reading English should come to this conclusion after reading the indictments, just saying.

I'm glad the Senator from Louisiana can read! 👍

Sadly, it seems some of our other senators cannot.

These are all written as "speaking indictments" for good reason - they spell out the charges and reasons for them, simply and understandably, for anyone to understand. Yet most won't bother, and that's sad.

Classified Documents indictment

Superseding indictment adding to Classified Docs

D.C. Jan 6th indictment

Fulton County GA indictment

[-] Dressedlikeapenguin@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

They got Clinton for lying about cheeting on his wife, only after trying to get him for Whitewater but failed. Ken Star used his powers to investigate ANYTHING but only found a secret blowjob. If Clinton hadn't lied, there would have been absolutely nothing he could prove in court. Not saying that the Clintons were/are clean, just that there's nothing to pin a conviction on.

[-] chaogomu@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

Depressing fact, one of the guys who worked for Ken Star now sits on the supreme court, and also worked on Bush v Gore. There are two more Bush v Gore lawyers on the court as well.

And no, none of them worked for Gore.

[-] Dressedlikeapenguin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

It is quite depressing. Also, Bill Barr worked for HW Bush on the [Iran-Contra](William Barr Supported Pardons In An Earlier D.C. 'Witch Hunt': Iran-Contra https://www.npr.org/2019/01/14/684553791/william-barr-supported-pardons-in-an-earlier-d-c-witch-hunt-iran-contra) cover up. He was well schooled in blocking and delaying prosecutions of those in power.

[-] chaogomu@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Roger Stone, of recent infamy, was a Nixon toady, and actually the person you talked to if you wanted to talk to Nixon after Watergate. He led the Brooks Brother's riot, where a bunch of lawyers flew into Florida and demanded that vote counting stop. They succeeded.

He also had a "stop the steal" website ready to go in 2016, but to everyone's surprise, it wasn't needed.

These rat fuckers are an incestuous bunch, and really there aren't that many of them.

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[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Of course the Clintons are clean.

They've been under a microscope since Bill announced he was running against Daddy Bush.

[-] Dressedlikeapenguin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

My opion is colored by years of conservative upbringing, hard to fight against sometimes.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I know I couldn't stand up to 11 hours of questioning like Hilary did.

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[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

The Georgia one is pretty dry compared to the Special Counsel ones.

I still read it ofc, but it was kinda dry.

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

He should drop out of the human race.

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He did a long time ago. But having human characteristics doesn't seem to be among the criteria under consideration for Republicans when choosing a candidate for President.

[-] ProfessorZhu@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

I'm sure just like Ted Cruz he's going remain consistent and not immediately flip to defending Trumps crimes once Trump wins the nomination.

[-] FoxBJK@midwest.social 7 points 1 year ago

I was about to say! Just waiting for the jump cut to next spring when this guy is officially endorsing Trump for the nomination.

[-] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He was still afraid to say he wouldn't vote for Trump, he just said he wouldn't vote for Biden and would vote Republican. So.... if Trump is the Republican candidate, what will he do? Note vote at all? Or... the obvious logical conclusion to his non-answer?

Such cowards.

[-] nxdefiant@startrek.website 18 points 1 year ago

Fuck I hope mango fuckstick runs as an independent against the GOP candidate. Glorious split vote.

[-] CoderKat@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Honestly, I worry most about what would happen if the GOP unites behind someone that isn't Trump in name (ie, with Trump completely out of the picture), but is effectively the same person. I think Trump doesn't have a chance of winning the general election. He's too despicable for anyone with even a little bit of morals. But a replacement could give right leaning people an excuse to vote for the GOP again, even if the replacement is basically just the same thing but less overt.

[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

The issue the GOP faces electorally is that they can really only win if they have both Trump loyalists and mainline Republicans. They HAVE to do the bullshit they are doing where they advocate for other candidates but wont denounce Trump. What they have to be hoping for is for him to die or become somehow unable to run at all, and that when faced with the impossibility he endorses the GOP candidate. He will never do that no matter what happens, which is nice because that means they likely wont get the White House for 4 more. But things stopped making predictable sense long ago so who the fuck knows what is gonna happen

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

They only have a chance of winning with the mainline and the loyalists, but they've got no shot without either. The problem they're running into is that the loyalists are pursuing demands which turn away the mainline, e.g. abortion laws.

[-] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

What he fails to realize is that none of that matters when you're the head of what is arguably the largest cult in human history.

[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Pssh. Mao, Mohammed, Jesus leave him in the dust.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

What's amazing about Mao was how many counterculture types in the West supported him and quoted from the Little Red Book while he was murdering half of China. Sort of feels like Tankies and Putin and Xi these days.

[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

His whole campaign is a scam. Guessing if he drops out he will lose tons of money.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

If he drops out, he can't get elected and pardon himself. He's trying to save himself at this point. Although no pardon would help him in Georgia. The president can't pardon state-level crimes.

I think there's a very small possibility he won't be on the Georgia ballot for legal reasons, but I don't think he'll drop out.

[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

He likely has a bunch or campaign loans that go bad if he drops out.

[-] Nougat@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Bill Cassidy is still a fuckwad. Watch the whole interview and the other bullshit he said.

[-] Hikermick@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Looks like he's not planning on running for relection. Going to spend more time with the family

[-] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

This may come across as a wild idea, but I’d settle for not prosecuting him if he never participates in politics again. Like not even a political tweet.

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 53 points 1 year ago

Nope. Bury him under Leavenworth.

He attempted to end our country.

He stole documents that probably got a ton of assets killed in enemy countries.

He stole documents that had highlighted our capabilities and readiness, as well as our allies.

Bury him under Leavenworth after he dies making little rocks out of big rocks.

[-] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Hard disagree... ADX Florence is a better fit.

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Ok. Imma gonna make a compromise. He can go there, we ship him rocks to break from Leavenworth, and when he dies, he gets buried under Leavenworth.

[-] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I’m with you. I just think the expedient solution may be more definitive.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Your expedient solution is not effective. It relies entirely on a liar keeping their word.

How many promises has trump broken? I’ve lost count. All your “solution” would do is give him time to retconn his image and try again. No. We need to drop the full weight of justice on his orange pasty ass

[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

You know, Hitler went to jail after the Bierhallputsch and got released under an accommodationst release like the one you're advocating...

As long as you're clear with everybody about what you want...

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

brick him up! Brick him up!!

[-] WagesOf@artemis.camp 18 points 1 year ago

Letting Nixon quit rather than be empeached and imprisoned is why so many republicans, rightfully, think they're completely above the law.

[-] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

This is not a smart idea, his Qult will just treat that as "big government" censoring their Messiah, and he would never stick to it, he's far too narcissistic for that.

Also he's 77, in poor health, there's so many people who were involved in the election theft attempt and January 6 who are much younger and need to be prosecuted as they are lingering threats to our democracy.

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Everything you said makes no sense at all. None of it is any reason this shouldn’t happen.

[-] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Okay whatever you say Neville Chamberlain, you're a dipshit because appeasement only emboldens fascists like Trump.

You don't reason with bullies, you hold them accountable or punch them in the mouth, stop acting like a sniveling coward.

This shouldn't happen because these bastards tried to end our democracy because they are are selfish, entitled, greedy, power hungry bastards who want to force their beliefs on all of us, and you sound like you are just the type of bootlicker to let them.

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Who said anything about appeasement. I’m saying he SHOULD drop out. You’re the dipshit that listed reasons why he shouldn’t.

[-] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Not prosecuting him is appeasement you fucking dullard.

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Who said anything about NOT Prosecuting him? Jesus fucking Christ, learn how to read- I said that I agree he SHOULD DROP OUT. This doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be prosecuted.

Again- learn how to read and stop embarrassing yourself.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Would you let a murderer off if they promised to never kill again?

[-] TheJims@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Oh hell no.

[-] Encode1307@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

You're getting downvoted, but you're right. It's a dangerous precedent to imprison former presidents. There's plenty of reason to imprison Trump but Republicans will seek revenge for the next 40 years.

[-] ProfessorZhu@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

It's a dangerous precident to ensure public officials can't commit crimes with impunity?

[-] Encode1307@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Is that what I said? Hint, no it's not.

They should charge him and try him. I honestly hope DOJ settles with him for an agreement to never hold public office again. While I'd love to see him rot in prison, I worry about what that'll unleash in this country.

[-] HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Dude can't even STFU after a judge told him to already. It's pure wishful thinking on your part that any agreement made would be held to.

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