247
submitted 1 year ago by jeffw@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

In proposing last week to eliminate 169 faculty positions and cut more than 30 degree programs from its flagship university, West Virginia, the state with the fourth-highest poverty rate in the country, is engaging in a kind of educational gerrymandering. If you’re a West Virginian with plans to attend West Virginia University, be prepared to find yourself cut out of much of the best education that the school has traditionally offered, and many of the most basic parts of the education offered by comparable universities.

The planned cuts include the school’s program of world languages and literatures, along with graduate programs in mathematics and other degrees across the arts and pre-professional programs. The university is deciding, in effect, that certain citizens don’t get access to a liberal arts education.

Sadly, this is not just a local story. Politicians and state officials, often with the help of management consultants, are making liberal arts education scarce in some of the poorest states in the union. This trend, typically led by Republican-controlled legislatures and often masquerading as budgetary necessity, threatens to have dire long-term effects on our already polarized and divided nation.

Administrators at West Virginia University devised the plan to restructure the school with the help of a consulting company called rpk Group, which also works with the Universities of Missouri, Kansas and Virginia, among other schools. The stated purpose of the proposal is to address an expected decline in student enrollment at the school that will create a projected $45 million budget deficit.

But the projected deficit is the result of overly aggressive planning more than it is a financial liability created by the humanities. E. Gordon Gee, the president of West Virginia University, once promised that the school would have 40,000 students by 2020, but the figure is still well under 30,000 across three campuses and is projected to drop. Mr. Gee is now covering up his own failures at the expense of his state’s citizens, instead of putting his efforts toward recruiting and obtaining donor money to fund a broad education for West Virginians.

What’s more, cutting humanities programs — which make up a sizable minority of the majors slated to be cut, alongside pre-professional and technical programs — is not necessarily the best way to save money. There is substantial evidence that humanities departments, unlike a majority of college athletics programs, often break even (and some may even subsidize the sciences). In defense of its proposed cuts, West Virginia University has cited declining interest in some of its humanities programs, but the absolute number of students enrolled is not the only measure of a department’s value.

The finances aren’t the point, anyway. The humanities are under threat more broadly across the nation because of the perceived left-wing ideology of the liberal arts. Book bans, attempts to undermine diversity efforts and remodeled school curriculums that teach that slavery was about “skill” development are part of a larger coordinated assault on the supposed “cultural Marxism” of the humanities. (That absurd idea rests in part on an antisemitic fantasy in which left-leaning philosophers like Theodor Adorno and Herbert Marcuse somehow took control of American culture after the Second World War.) To resist this assault, we must provide broad access to a true liberal arts education.

The campaign to overturn the liberal arts is politically motivated, through and through. The Democratic Party has lost the working class, while the Republican Party has made electoral gains among the least educated. With the help of consultants, Republicans seek to gut the (nonprofit or public) university in the name of a “profit” it doesn’t even intend to deliver. The point instead is to divide the electorate, and higher education is the tool.

The resentment fostered by cuts like those at West Virginia University won’t be aimed at the true culprits. The long-term effect will be bitterness toward those who have access to the liberal arts education that remains on offer in many blue states and at elite universities — what the scholar Lisa Corrigan calls a “two-tier educational system.” This outcome is likely to fortify many Republican voting strongholds.

Democratic politicians need to fight back in these culture wars, defending the humanities (rather than disparaging them) and loudly dissenting from the view that education is just job training. College presidents like Mr. Gee should promote and recruit rather than cutting and running. An unholy alliance of far-right ideology and mercenary venture capitalists has politicized the classroom. We must reject their vision of America and insist that a liberal arts education accessible to more than just the elite is one of the great foundations of a democracy.

all 43 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 73 points 1 year ago

This is what happens when you treat education like a business instead of a public service.

[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

Ah, the conservative intellectual rot in full force.

It's a shame really.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Breaking News: state that doesn’t value education, doesn’t value education.

I’m finding it difficult to care about a self-destructive pattern by a state known for self-destructive patterns …. And they keep electing people who are stealing what little hope for their future they may have had

[-] paysrenttobirds@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

This is exactly what dividing the electorate looks like.

Denying people (kids/young people) the protection of the federal government (right to education, informed participation in democracy, ability to successfully leave the state they were raised in), you are playing into their hands.

They want you to believe those states are full of irredeemable idiots, they market those voices to you, and they will take your statement above back home to keep their own people in place. They want you to cut them loose, but more importantly, on a political and often family level they want their own to fear you.

[-] liztliss@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Because they also elect people who have power over the entire country

[-] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In Canada, at least when I was younger, there was a sort of hierarchy of post-secondary institutions, named honestly for their mandates: Technical Institutes, Colleges, Universities, ranging from good, focused, short-term (1-2yr max) trades education, to somewhat white-collar education and business training (2-3 years) without little to no research focus, to full-on graduate/post-graduate tracks (4 yrs undergrad BsC/BEd etc. and beyond) doing the typical research expected of Universities.

If this "University" has truly cut out anything considered arts/humanities or "liberal arts", then they should be required to drop the facade and just call themselves a tech institute or something.

[-] theodewere@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

or drop all facades and declare themselves a fascist indoctrination center.. Musk can buy it with Saudi money or at least help them rebrand it..

[-] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 5 points 1 year ago

... what are you on about...?

[-] Aliendelarge@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The US has something similar. WVU is whats called a land-grant university which is supposed to focus on agriculture, science, and engineering as opposed to liberal arts. This opinion piece posted to news could probably do with some additional details.

[-] MacGuffin94@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

I'm going to be honest, I don't care. This is what WV voted for. And not some 51-55% of people. It's like 60-70%+of the view that the politicians putting in these policies received. WV has nothing going for it now that global warming is going to get rid of the coal industry eventually. They (the politicians and corporations) haven't looked to diversify the economy. The state is bottom 10 at least in terms of education, poverty, and standard of living. The state is going to die slowly and painfully just like so many deep red states.

[-] Schroed4@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

I agree with you and also am disappointed with how the article abuses language. This is in no way shape or form something that should be called Gerymandering, and to do so confuses a word that really deserves to not be abused.

[-] dethb0y@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I think a lot of people have never met people actually from WVa, but I have - i have lived near the state my entire life. There is no one more ignorant, backwards, than the average West Virginian. They simply do not care: about the future, about what anyone thinks of them, about repercussions for their actions.

It's really hard to believe if you haven't experienced it first hand.

Anyone who feels differently or does not fit in - leaves as soon as they are able to, because literally anywhere else is likely to have more opportunities for actual job growth and careers.

[-] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I also lived super close to WV. I am so glad we moved when we did. I was a kid at the time, but I still understood how backwards everyone was around there. I hated it

[-] ChetManly@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

WV resident here. There are pockets of reasonable people left. My wife and I moved here a decade ago for good paying stem jobs. My kid is even flourishing at a well funded public school. Not all hope is lost.

[-] HubertManne@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago

I don't see what they are going to accomplish outside of a brain drain. Its not like college capable people are not going to go to college. They are just now going to more likely go out of state.

[-] SuiXi3D@kbin.social 30 points 1 year ago

But that’s what they want. The smart folks will leave the state, and their left-leaning votes with them. That’ll leave the state voting red, and those electoral college votes staying red as well. This is simply a grab for power, nothing more. Yes, it will lead to more folks being less educated, but that’s what the right wants: people too dumb to think for themselves.

[-] theodewere@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

government by assholes for assholes

i'm sorry, assholes is sort of a rude word.. i just mean people who are both stupid and hateful a lot..

[-] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Which will cost more so maybe some won't.

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Conservatism is a plague of idiocy. Conservatives thrive on oppressing others by depriving them of education, healthcare, clean water or other basic services found in developed countries. Instead, they encourage bigotry, racism, homophobia, antisemitism and xenophobia.

Do your part. Teach your children why we don't do business or keep relationships with conservatives. We must marginalize hate by marginalizing haters.

[-] theodewere@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

bunch of cowards whose fathers taught them to hide their heads up their asses, writing laws that try to tell other people what to understand

[-] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The article says that Democrats should "loudly [dissent] from the view that education is just job training." I think that's the attitude that leads people to end up with college debt they can't repay. Paying tuition in order to learn simply for the sake of learning is an expensive luxury. Unless you're already rich, education should be primarily about job training.

Liberal arts majors do get jobs, and I don't know the details about their post-college earnings vs the earnings of people with other degrees. Maybe there's parity and then there's no pragmatic reason to cut back on liberal arts education. But I suspect there isn't parity, in which case maybe it's best for universities, especially state universities in relatively poor states like West Virginia, to direct their students to better-compensated specialties.

[-] average650@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Education shouldn't be as expensive as it is.

Practically speaking, I get why students look at it that way because, like you said, it is an expensive luxury at that price.

But, it shouldn't cost that much.

[-] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

That would help, but I'm not sure I agree it would really change much. Even if college is free, graduates still need to get a job afterwards. Getting a less well-compensated degree has an opportunity cost in addition to the up-front cost.

[-] snooggums@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

It would be less of an opportunity cost if education wasn't as expensive as it is.

[-] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

To be honest, if a person isn't going to study something that will let him earn a lot of money, I'm not particularly inclined to subsidize his education with taxes. Money is apparently not very important to this person, but it is very important to me...

[-] average650@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I think an educated populace is an invaluable resource. But, nothing is stopping someone from not going to free college if they want.

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Exactly. The idea that people shouldn't study other things like literature or art is just moronic. Yes we need better job training programs, but getting rid of majors that earn less is stupid. That's the frosting on the "cake" of society.

[-] Drusas@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

College has never been a job training program and was never meant to be. Job training programs should be a hell of a lot shorter.

[-] Uranium3006@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

Job training should either be on the job or paid for by busniess taxes

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

This is the real solution. Businesses hate training new employees and then complain that no new employees know what they're doing. There is a first mover problem where any company who invests in training can be cherry-picked by a second company who simply raises wages (because they save money on the training budget).

This can create a so called "skills gap", where you need skills to get a job but no one is willing to give you a chance to practice those skills. Certifications try to fill the gap but do the bare minimum. We need job training schools funded by each industry. Ideally larger companies would also be forced to hire each graduate above a certain skill level.

[-] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

College is a funny thing. Historically it has not been a job training program (except for a few specialties) and it claims that it's still not a job training program. However for the last fe decades (since the original GI bill?) ,most students have been going to college so that they can get a good job once they graduate. Thus college ends up being a job training program which is way more expensive and less useful than a job training program not pretending to be something else would be.

If I were in charge of everything, I would look into the option of cutting back on a lot of government subsidies for college students and directing that money to effective job training programs instead.

[-] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

All colleges need to ban students from taking on student loans for any degree they can't prove their grads got jobs in that field. If you're paying cash go for a art degree.

[-] NormandyEssex@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Im not that worried. They’re making a business decision… we’ll see how it goes for them.

[-] _wintermute@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

It's probably going to go fine for them... It will go poorly for the people who want an affordable, real, education.

[-] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

West Virginia belongs to the Southern Regional Compact so any WV student who wants a degree in something that WVU doesn't offer can go to an out of State University and get it...while still paying the same In-State tuition rate.

https://www.sreb.org/academic-common-market

So if a WVU student wants that Doctorate in Mathematics or Bachelors in German they can get it from The University of Maryland, The University of Delaware, or Virginia State.

[-] average650@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Making your states education system into merely a business is a great way to hamstring your state and it's population.

WVU may well do fine. But that doesn't mean there aren't repercussions.

this post was submitted on 20 Aug 2023
247 points (100.0% liked)

News

23387 readers
2933 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS