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Apparently, the PC I was given by my employer less than a year ago is too out of date (uses Windows 10) and I have to have Windows 11 now for security reasons. I have a gaming PC, but it's my partner's, too, and it'd be a huge waste of its power and graphics card, plus it'd have to be moved. I really don't want to do that.

A new company owns the company I work for now, but still. This is not what I agreed to. Ugh. I'm so annoyed.

It's not that expensive, really ($200), but it's the principle of the matter. How long will it be before they force me to do this again, anyway??? I already get paid a shit wage.

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[-] Gerudo@lemm.ee 47 points 8 months ago

Do NOT, I repeat, do NOT use your own device. You most likely will have to install software packages onto the machine that can and will track everything you do, at the bare minimum on the work account, and potentially the entire system. You don't want to run the risk of the company having access to your personal stuff.

There are also a lot of legal words that work their way into contracts that state things like "anything done on a work related machine is the property of the company". Don't risk it, fight them to get them to provide a work device.

[-] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 28 points 8 months ago

You are under no obligation to use your personal equipment and I wouldn't.

Who owns the company PC you are currently using? How much is it worth? Likely it's part of the corporate IT fleet and is covered by a support contract. What does that cover? What happens if it gets damaged, who pays for what?

[-] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 24 points 8 months ago

If you’re in the US and you are an employee (not a contractor) your employer has to supply you with the tools to do your job. Sorry they’re pulling this.

[-] BertramDitore@lemm.ee 23 points 8 months ago

If their reason is truly for security, then having you use your own personal computer is a terrible idea! Enterprise hardware and software systems exist for many reasons, and keeping work and personal separate is not an insignificant one for us WFH folks. Do they really want you logging into secure systems from hardware they have no control over? Seems like an unnecessary liability for them.

And if when you got the job you were told that equipment would be provided, then they cannot expect you to even have your own PC let alone one that meets their security requirements.

This would piss me off so much, sorry they’re putting you through this bullshit.

[-] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 22 points 8 months ago

No. This is a con. An employer has to provide the necessary equipment to do the job. If they're prepared to try this on they won't hesitate to shaft you at a later date.

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

Tell them you don’t have a pc.

[-] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 18 points 8 months ago

They should pay for your work computer

[-] recursive_recursion@lemmy.ca 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

When I initially saw the post title I was going to provide recommendations for building one but after reading your situation I agree with the rest of the commentors here.

Your work/boss requiring you to BYOC is a HUGE red flag. If anything, I'd also recommend asking for a stipend that would fully cover the expense for a computer, if they say no and tell you to bring the one you have from home say no. They cannot force you to bring your own computer for work.

In the worst case scenario that they choose to be idiotic and fire you for saying no then you will be obligated for severance and/or unemployment insurance if I remember correctly.

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*I made grammar revisions for this comment

[-] pixxelkick@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

I have to have Windows 11 now for security reasons.

Can.. you not upgrade your current work machine to win11?

Just tell them that you'll send them back the laptop for the upgrade if you have to, or IT can do it remotely, but you dont have another PC to use, that's why you had one issued.

They only way I would use my personal PC is if I am VPN+RDPing into a work machine, and that's it. I've done that many times before, as that's secure and doesn't have any work resources on your oc itself, you're just remotely connecting to your actual work PC over a secure vpn.

That's the only scenario that I use my personal PC for work.

[-] dingus@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

My laptop doesn't support upgrading to win 11 because of its processor. You can hack your way around shit like that, but it takes some doing.

[-] clubb@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

I'm sorry if I misunderstood, english is not my first language, but what stops you from upgrading the laptop from work to win 11?

[-] Hegz@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago

Very much this. It's been a free upgrade for windows 10 for a good long while now.

[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago

Apparently, the PC I was given by my employer less than a year ago is too out of date (uses Windows 10) and I have to have Windows 11 now for security reasons.

upgrade this to 11 if the hardware is compatible. don't do anything else other than click the button in windows update for it. that much won't cost you a penny.

(back up the important data, bookmarks, etc. first, just in case windows update wants to crap all over your system)

nearly every pc sold new from the major manufacturers in the last decade is compatible with windows 11 system requirements. it may need a bios setting changed to enable a hardware feature windows 11 'needs' to have.

if what they provided in 2024 was actually a 10+ year old pc.. then, i dunno. definitely push back a bit there. win 10 doesn't go 'end of life' til october, so you have time to discuss things with them. there is also an optional program to give a win10 system updates past then (not free. iirc, $30-some first year. more in yrs 2 and 3 if wanted).

if you need new and you're unsure if you'll get reimbursed or reimbursed right away. don't go crazy. go 'acceptable' for the task-at-hand, and as inexpensively as possible.

if you're in the us, walmart has a basic asus laptop for $249 (8gb/256ssd core i3).

i highly recommend keeping 'work' pc and stuff separate from 'home' and 'play' stuff and systems. work on a work pc, do everything else on something else.

[-] dingus@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Many are compatible, yes, but I wouldn't say nearly every one is compatible. My laptop is from 2018 and is not compatible because Microsoft doesn't like my processor. Despite the fact that I'm sure it would run win 11 just fine.

[-] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 3 points 8 months ago

Easiest way might just to be running an windows 11 vm and they won’t know

[-] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I'd buy the new PC so that your own PC can actually be your own still and your work stuff can be relegated to that new PC.

There's plenty of really good reason to not mix work and pleasure on your main PC, your employer or school effectively taking ownership of your main, personal system being one big one.

Optionally, I'd also just start looking for new work if you work for a BYOD place.

[-] lady_maria@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

yeah... unfortunately, this is what I ended up doing. I guess I knew I'd have to leave this job eventually, but I'm really loving remote work.

they ended up having seemingly absurd requirements (I9 processor or greater) for what's basically a desktop phone. I guess it's a bargain... we're getting a good processor out of it. my partner thankfully knows how to build PCs.

[-] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

An i9 for a work PC? Seriously? What did they think you were going to do, compile massive amounts of code all day? Even my current CPU, an R5 4500, is probably overkill for basic office tasks (but it's perfectly adequate for gaming on if you're not interested in the latest AAA slop), and it's truly a low-end part, but an i9 or R9 for basic office tasks is ridiculous.

[-] lady_maria@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

ikr? as far as I know, the most taxing program on it would be a VoIP. I guess maybe it's an attempt to get them to last as long as possible? that's my only guess.

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