I wonder why such an important piece of info is posted on social media but not on a dedicated webpage that can be linked to any social media posts.
Yay, privatization? Just post it to a social media platform so the official org doesn’t have to dedicate IT resources or further effort to it?
Social media has a very good ratio of information spreading versus effort required. It's also why it's a popular thing for misinformation and influence campaigns.
In contrast, if a government agency wants to make a website for this, it probably needs a proposal, budget request, approval by a commission, a bidding process, and other bureaucatic procedures put in place by politicians that wanted to lower spending.
I mean fuck X, sure, but why is the police posting crucial information on a commercial, privately moderated platform? Why would you just assume everyone has an account with Musk's service?
I've seen this shit in Europe too - with everyone just assuming you'll have WhatsApp. At least most EU governments don't use it exclusively, but I'm certain countries, like Turkey, WhatsApp is the only channel where information can often be found.
The Dutch government used Twitter for a lot of information (though this was often if not always found on their own websites as well), but now they host their own Mastodon instance for any gov related stuff that can be used by government agencies in conjunction with or as a replacement for Twitter. Which is pretty cool imo.
I hope many organizations and groups follow suit.
This is part of the fall of Twitter.
There were two paths for Twitter, in the eyes of many idealistic people like me. One path was something terrible like what happened with Musk. The second path was one that treated it as a public commons of the world.
That second path is how many grew to understand Twitter during its rise and peak. This is why there are so many situations where various public and governmental groups used it as a notification feed/system.
You can go on about how they should just start their own ActivityPub based solution, or move to bluesky or whatever. But it’s not that simple for all of them. Nor are all of the groups involved in posting these feeds technically savvy to do so. Twitter made it easy, and it made sense.
The article could have easily been just as absurd if it was about how people didn’t get the alert because the alerts were moved to a mastodon instance and people are upset because they don’t want to have to go through the trouble of picking a server. heh.
It’s so unfortunate that Twitter went this way. No more free and easy api, no more third party apps and tools. No more expectation that everyone is there. No more expectation that public alerts make sense there.
Yes, centralizing all of this is a big problem. And musk is just one example of why. But, it could have gone the other way.
Twitter is hot garbage, that's only gotten worse since Elon took over, but this is really just a problem with government agencies/departments using social media websites as primary avenues of delivering information.
Dear fucking god this is the real issue and why Mastodon is the solution because the agencies can have their own self-hosted presence. Is it perfect by any stretch? Oh fuck no, but it's a lot closer to those groups having an independence and not relying on the corporations good graces for any of it to keep functioning.
When government relies on corporations to function, those corporations can hold a proverbial gun to the governments head and say "now do what we say or we make everything stop working."
That's why no official service should use commercial social media.
Using (only) corpomedia to announce information at government level should be illegal.
Why can't they just put the information in the alert directly? That's what the Koreans did when I was there. Why this extra indirection in the first place?
Yes this happened to me and my wife.
Alert came in one the phone (screaming at us really) then when you clicked on the notification. Bam blocked because we didn't have a twitter account.
The mobile carriers and device OEM's already participate directly in the Amber alert program. Why is X even part of this?
The problem isn’t the alert itself, it’s that cops put Twitter links in the alert. If you want to see what the car, suspect, or victim look like, you need to be able to access Twitter.
Police have been doing this for years now. It’s a fast a cheap way to microblog without buying or supporting something with the city’s budget.
Why the hell doesn't FBI or some other fed agency create tools for shit like this? Why is every city reinventing the wheel?
Because they dont allow marijuana users in government jobs
Yup funds, and the web traffic handleability.
My small city (population 89,000) had a 911 outage about 2 years ago. Their solution was to sms text or voice dial everyone with the message "...please dial any county non-emergency number... see a list of numbers at bitly.url...". The hosted website was hugged-to-death.
After fines, it was inevitably cheaper to extend the nearest net backbone closer to our neck of the woods and upgrade all county things with fiber and data centers.
I had no idea this shit depended on twitter!?!? what a bunch of bullshit. Even though I usually ignore amber alerts they should at the very least be as accessible as possible for people who help.
Former HI Governor Ige could not recall a false missile attack alert because he didnt know his Xitter password.
"Stat tuned for an important Government Announcement!"
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This is what happens when governments rely on a private corporate service for public announcements
Every government should just adopt a fediverse instance of some sort, maintain it and push that to everyone to use as a public announcement service. That way it would not be controlled, manipulated, lost or disconnected if they had full control over it all the time.
This is a solved problem
Shit catches fire in Australia and we get text messages.
Did Elon Musk Rape and Dismember a 14 Year Old Girl?
People are saying it. Many great people.
In Switzerland there is an app called Alertswiss which gets published by the government. They use it for critical alerts and you can also use it to see open warnings and where in the country there might be stuff happening.
Just do the same @California
Not that I do not agree, but if you think you'll be able to get Americans, who already do not trust the government, to download an app on their phones made by the government, well I have a bridge to sell you.
It's amazing how these very unregulated tech companies that have been proven time and time again to steal user data and mess up have this blind trust from the public.
If you think Twitter is ever going to give you real news again, you deserve to have your face eaten by leopards.
That's because conservatives are pedophiles who sex-traffic children.
That’s because Elon Musk works with the pedophile elites. He can’t have people knowing the truth.
Governments should not be using Twitter. They should all move to Bluesky and Mastodon. If you still have a Twitter account please only use it to encourage people to migrate to other platforms. Don't use it for anything else.
This has been annoying me as well, so many city services got used to just using twitter and then Elon took over and now you just can't find out about things unless you have an X account. Shortly after the change to X I drove hours to use a hiking trail that was closed - I checked the conditions on the park service's website, but it was using a twitter feed and the top post was "trail is open, come on in!" because it had been changed to show the top post of all time instead of the newest post.
There should be some non-profit funded by cities that's basically just a webpage where cities can post important info, or maybe they can have their own mastodon node.
RSS is as old as the internet but it's been effectively killed, except for the websites that host it accidentally. Our city and The Orange House has one but it's only limited information posted there.
RSS really should be more common.
You use to get RSS feeds for Twitter accounts. AFAIR. So Twitter accounts were effectively RSS notification feeds at one point.
Aaron Swartz was involved in developing RSS v1.0 too, cofounder of Reddit.
This happened to me in Missouri about 6 months ago. Couldn’t view the amber alert because twitter.
Ironically, when I tried to load Wired’s story about this travesty, Wired quickly hid the content with pop-over asking me to subscribe.
One more example of a private service being used as if it were a utility.
This one is especially egregious considering it's an Amber Alert, but it isn't necessarily unique. Despite the internet being designed as open, it has been taken over by private entities, and any popular service is ultimately controlled by such entities.
It's a hard problem to solve. Look at federated platforms like Lemmy: they take a long time to populate, and their usefulness is partly a function of how successful that population is. By definition, a free, open platform will not have the advertising, reach, or "it factor" of a corporate service. When given the choice between an open platform and a corporate one, we see people choose the corporate one time and time again.
We have taken our open network and handed it, willingly, to private enterprise.
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