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[-] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 30 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Every DRM related app afterwards: WARNING! This phone is running insecure software and is incompatible with this service.

And before you tell me just to not use Netflix on my phone, I'm talking about a government app that lets me authenticate and without which I can't read official messages or login to any government or banking service.

So if I want to survive as an adult Dane, I pretty much have to figure out which company I would like to get sodomized by, and which is less of a clingy little bitch afterwards.

[-] LordKitsuna@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Oooooor have a secondary cheap absolute trash phone that is ONLY for those shitty government auth tools. Not ideal but gives you some control again

[-] DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 105 points 5 days ago

Does all that and still used WhatsApp lol

[-] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 61 points 5 days ago

I still haven't found a way to make my parents use Signal, so either I stop communicating with them (which is tempting sometimes) or have this compromise

[-] teije9 19 points 5 days ago

use matrix with the whatsapp bridge

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[-] Routhinator@startrek.website 11 points 5 days ago

I just don't communicate with anyone that insists on using products that have user agreements I don't agree with. The amount of bullshit user agreements are getting overloaded with makes them dangerous legal contracts that can have serious implications on your rights. Just ask the family whose daughter died at a Disney theme park and when they tried to sue Disney tried to force them to arbitration because their son had tried Disney+

[-] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 14 points 5 days ago

Well evidently you're not in charge of anyone's healthcare: when you have a parent that has to be taken care of, you have to compromise if they're not able to adapt

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[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

If they're serious about talking to you, they'll budge. Call their bluff.

[-] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 110 points 6 days ago

install Pokémon Go

allow all permissions

[-] AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca 25 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Install pokemon go

Spoof location

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[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 58 points 5 days ago

I love phones, just hate the companies running it.

Same with most tech, the tech isn't evil, its just how its being used, and who's steering its future.

Thanks to the companies you cannot love the phones without accepting the company's every whim. So I don't love phones.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Honestly I wish we just had dumb phones and went back to Palm Pilots. But there's so much stuff that makes a phone mandatory nowadays.

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[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 21 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

That's why my current phone is a Pixel running GrapheneOS. I still hate Android, but at least I don't have to run Play services on my main profile. I do run it on a separate profile though for a couple services that need it.

I really just want Linux with decent support for phone features (MMS/calls/data on any carrier, with full wake from sleep reliability), decent battery life, and decent audio quality. Unfortunately, PinePhone doesn't seem to handle those things properly (maybe it does MMS now?), so I stick w/ my GrapheneOS phone, which at least cuts out most of the crap from Android.

[-] kamen@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

... and then hope that you don't get hardware issue warranty claim denied because of the software.

[-] TommySoda@lemmy.world 54 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It's honestly such a pain in the ass to say no to everything Google shoves down your throat these days. And even after you say no it will remind you every so many days just in case you changed your mind after the 15th time you said no. Android used to be the "cool" phone but nowadays if you don't install your own custom ROM it's basically just Apple with extra steps

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 5 days ago

The number of services that have adopted dark patterns is too much.

It's no longer "No" with a checkmark that says "Don't ask me again" to only "Not now" with the implied consent that they can ask you again later.

Dropbox asks me every fucking time I use the browser.

NewRelic asks me every fucking day.

Amazon asks me every fucking order.

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[-] tengkuizdihar@programming.dev 18 points 5 days ago

very based.

[-] MumboJumbo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

@BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works Sorry I can't figure out how to reply in thread, made an account just to tell you you can get a nøglebrik/kodeviser for MitId. It's a fully offline TOTP thing that you can use instead of the app. I never even installed the app :)

[-] smee@sosial.link 46 points 6 days ago

Why not just get a google-less ROM at that point?

[-] ElectroLisa 13 points 6 days ago

Lack of availability

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[-] arc@lemm.ee 12 points 5 days ago

And then anon still walks around with a beacon in their pocket

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 35 points 6 days ago

Fake: Anon can do any of this

Gay: Bought a samsung phone

P.S the kids have been raving about this phone just reduces all those steps to "buy phone".

[-] FuryMaker@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago

No headphone jack... So close!

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[-] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

> buy fairphone because I hate constructors adding their bloatware to my phone.
> Boot it up, insert SIM.
> Next reboot, my carrier tries to get me to install their shit with a permanent notification (thankfully I can hide it, just have to do it every reboot).

How the fuck is that even legal

[-] xep@fedia.io 20 points 6 days ago

If I'm not mistaken, Anon's Phone will still communicate with Google services for location services and push notifications after this.

[-] superkret@feddit.org 25 points 6 days ago

No, not after he removed everything with Google in the name, including Google Play services.

What anon doesn't realize it's that you don't need to root your phone for all this, you can just use adb or the universal android debloater.

— sent from a Samsung that's degoogled in the same exact way.

[-] xep@fedia.io 15 points 6 days ago

I see. In that case his push notifications will not work for apps that rely on Google play services for them. A few other things off the top of my head:

A-GPS SUPL must be changed Captive portal must be changed DNS, NTP servers must be changed Depending on how much you trust Chromium system webview should be avoided

It is not trivial to remove Google from Android, even AOSP

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[-] devilish666@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

For me it just :

  • root it with magisk
  • install adguard + adaway + blocker + LuckyPatcher + LSPOSED
  • add custom filter to adguard & adaway like HAGEZI, 1Host, Cubic, StevenBlack
  • Tweak adguard so it always run on startup, using DNS Bootstrap/Falback, enable AntiDPI, etc...
  • Install LSPOSED Modules like HideMyAppList, Disable Target API Block, Let Me Downgrade, BOOTLOADERSPOOFER, etc...
  • Set Blocker mode to package manager
  • Disable any SDK/Tracker inside any apps with Blocker
  • Install magisk module like PIFork, ZygiskNext, Shamiko, etc
  • Reboot my phone
  • Tweak any LSPOSED Module so i can use any mobile banking apps or apps that stop working if phone rooted
  • Reboot again
  • Check play integrity fix & disable play protect
  • ??????
  • PROFIT....
[-] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago

”just” 😅

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[-] Yodan@lemm.ee 12 points 6 days ago

Buys a $1000 modern communication device

Disables all ways for it to communicate or use its modern services

Just buy a Nokia dumb phone and call it a day.

[-] albert180@discuss.tchncs.de 44 points 6 days ago

Imagine thinking that there are no modern Services or Communication besides Apple and Google

[-] Yodan@lemm.ee 14 points 6 days ago

My point is that you're buying a branded device specifically because it has ease of use features but then you're replacing them all with custom services that you now need to upkeep manually and tend like a garden. It's over complicating the purchase.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 24 points 6 days ago

A perfect interpretation by somebody staring out over the walls of their own garden. "Pah, look at those peasants out there, putting effort into their freedom. How stupid can you be?"

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[-] MudMan@fedia.io 12 points 6 days ago

I like that in this scenario they still have to install Whatsapp to be able to phone on the phone.

Frankly, my stance to this is to just do what's convenient and deal with the rest. For big, meaningful change you need regulation, not user behavior.

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