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[-] Okokimup@lemmy.world 106 points 10 months ago

I think you're underestimating corvids.

[-] SARGE@startrek.website 84 points 10 months ago

Corvids evolved beyond the need for physical form.

All that remains are echoes.

[-] tetris11@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago

Caw.... caw... caw.....

[-] Soggy@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

They Jonathon Livingstoned themselves.

[-] Zess@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

They fuckin peaced like the dolphins in Hitchhiker's Guide.

[-] Jerb322@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Great, now I want to watch it.....again. No, really, it's been a bit. Thanks.

[-] Davel23@fedia.io 83 points 10 months ago

Ray Bradbury already did this in "There Will Come Soft Rains".

[-] BossDj@lemm.ee 17 points 10 months ago

Such an incredible story. The nursery scene is my favorite

[-] TheBrideWoreCrimson@sopuli.xyz 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I highly recommend all of the Martian Chronicles.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

While we're on the subject of Ray Bradbury, most people don't know he wrote things other than science fiction, but he actually wrote one of my favorite mystery novels (which is slightly autobiographical):

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17972482-a-graveyard-for-lunatics

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[-] vic_rattlehead@lemmy.world 60 points 10 months ago

The octopodes are named Paul and Salome.

[-] littletoolshed@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

Nice, was looking for a Children reference 😂

[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Can't wait for the next book. Apparently it's being worked on

Funnily enough the other parts of the post remind me of "service model", the new book by Tschaikowsky

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[-] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 7 points 10 months ago

What's this a reference to? It's ringing a bell that I can't quite make out

[-] 9bananas@lemmy.world 47 points 10 months ago

for anyone that wants whis concept as an entire sci-fi story:

this is almost literally the plot of "children of time" by Adrian Tchaikovsky!

excellent trilogy, but the first part can be read as a standalone story!

[-] AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Seconded. They are great novels, and quite original!

[-] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 months ago

I've been meaning to check out their novels. Thanks for the reminder.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Yikes, 20w wait on my library’s network.

I do have a hold, but this is why I haven’t been reading much lately

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[-] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 28 points 10 months ago

Sounds like the scifi short story, "There Will Come Soft Rains" by Ray Bradbury. It's about a post-apocalypse, automated house that tries to maintain a daily routine, long after humanity is gone.

[-] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago

Sounds like they do better than us at ruling this world.

[-] booly@sh.itjust.works 19 points 10 months ago

Other species will have a really hard time following us, because our own playbook is no longer available.

Extraction of resources out of the ground is getting harder and harder. We've exhausted the easily extracted ore for iron/tin/copper mining, and modern mining of those materials requires much more sophisticated technology. So a Bronze Age and Iron Age can't really come up from the ground up.

And without easily extracted fossil fuels providing cheap and abundant energy, industrialization would be a pretty difficult hurdle to overcome.

The best hopes of a post-human civilization will come from whatever species learns to recycle and reuse human waste.

And maybe the leftovers of human agriculture (any plant species that efficiently produce lots of biomass that don't require active planting/tilling/irrigation/fertilization, whatever domesticated animals can survive as feral colonies) will have lasting effects, too.

[-] Idontevenknowanymore@mander.xyz 17 points 10 months ago

Landfills are the mining boom of the future.

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[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago

Why would they need to mine ore when we just left all of it laying around?

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[-] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

I see Salome and Paul are up to their usual shenanigans under the sea

[-] JayleneSlide@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Came here for this. Thank you, well-read stranger!

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[-] GluWu@lemm.ee 13 points 10 months ago

I've thought about this a lot, raccoons are 100% taking over after humans. They already dominate north america and almost conquered Germany. Once human control runs out Europe is fucked and they will eventually take over all of Eurasia.

[-] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

They can cute their way into your house too

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago

My friend has recurring raccoons she feeds. Their little hands are so adorable. There’s a possum that pretends to be a raccoon. She humours him.

[-] MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Didn't Japan also import raccoons because of a TV show and they went fucking up ancient architecture

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Really depends on how far the climate spirals out of control. The long term issue is positive feedback loops - when the results of a system produce the conditions that aggravate that same system. So like, arctic permafrost melts and releases methane; methane acts as a greenhouse gas and accelerates global warming; warming makes arctic thaw faster; methane released at higher rate; planet warms faster, more melt, more methane, more heat, and so on.

These kinds of things are already unleashed, so even if humans all went extinct RIGHT NOW and industry and such all came to a 100% full stop... the climate would still continue to destabalize on its own.

So... when we reach a point that spells the end for humans, we'll be crossing the threshold for other mammals too... I don't see racoons or baboons surviving.

Eventually, something will interrupt the feedback loop - i.e., the permafrost thaws completely and there's no more methane to release; but factor in all feedback loops and who knows how much heat we're talking - it could literally end with the Earth becoming molten.

My money's on bugs. They'll be a ble to survive conditions that animals can't. And if bugs get wiped out too, there's potential stemming from things like tardigrades or other microbes.

Or... we pump so much heat into our planet that even the most extreme of those die off too, leaving earth as just another completely lifeless rock floating through space.

Life, uh, finds a way. Until it doesn't.

[-] _different_username@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

The fear of feedback loops is reasonable, but may not be inevitable. The reason complex life exists on this planet, in part, is that the biosphere evolved to prevent runaway climate change. As the life forms grew more varied and complex, the tools for maintaining a viable atmosphere also increased. So the Precambrian extinctions are attributed to changes that extremely primitive life forms couldn't adapt to. Once life moved onto land, and trees, grasses, and flowers evolved, the number of ways for life to adapt went way up.

It should say something that the most recent mass extinction event (I mean, before the anthropocene), was caused by a giant asteroid and a decade(s?)-long winter, rather than a change in solar luminosity or runaway GHG shift.

With the advent of humans, this planet now has tools available for GHG and solar radiation management (SRM) that were unthinkable by nature. SRM with sulfur dioxide and air capture of CO₂ allow for the rapid reshaping of the climate almost as fast as fossil fuel combustion. As a result, the tools to stabilize the climate are available and their use is inevitable. The longer we wait to use them, the worse the problem gets and the more people are harmed, but given the unheard-of capacities that we've developed to stave off runaway global warming, I do not believe that humanity will choose extinction over GHG management and SRM.

Most of these thoughts come from Gaian Bottleneck Theory, which you can read more about here. You may be right, but I'm hoping you are wrong (no offense).

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[-] Pregnenolone@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I think it’ll be crows

[-] statler_waldorf@sopuli.xyz 12 points 10 months ago

Someone is overestimating how long a modern appliance will last.

[-] KingOfTheCouch@lemmy.ca 11 points 10 months ago

Nah, they won't be able to do their fucking job but I'd bet every non-essential part will last. That washing machine craves telling it's dumb fuck user "D80" and then proceed to do nothing with the load.

As long as that control board can get a couple watts it will sing its song to hopefully coax some poor fool into feeding it.

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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

I demand more information on the Bronze Age raccoons

[-] coherent_domain@infosec.pub 7 points 10 months ago

I need this kind of content in my life.

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago
[-] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 6 points 10 months ago

Get some Werner Herzog for it and I’m in.

Feelgood dystopian sci-fi for misanthropes should be a thing if it isn’t already.

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[-] peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

When will my library have this book?

[-] ivanovsky@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

This is just copy pasted from the Splatoon lore.

[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

I have no objections. Let me light some incense, let us continue.

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