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[-] TurboHarbinger@feddit.cl 8 points 18 hours ago

Let's throw more carbon to the air, what could go wrong. Is not like it will get to our lungs and destroy everything from the inside.

[-] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 22 points 1 day ago

How effective would it be to sprinkle CEO dust into the sky?

[-] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 1 points 13 hours ago

Not at all. Much cheaper to sprinkle them in the hog trough

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

I'm not saying we should try it and find out, but I've heard worse ideas.

[-] febra@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago

Amazing. Instead of just.. fighting climate change by not polluting the planet let's just fill our entire atmosphere with diamond dust, because that's the logical decision of course.

[-] Eximius@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's not really any different than usual dust, other than it is even more likely to scratch your phone (oh no!). The surprising thing is the bullshit price number, I'm sure it's some brain-dead economist looking at the point-price for diamond and with great effort making a single multiplication.

Edit: The study does note industrial diamond manufacturing, but doesn't go into detail on why it's so expensive for diamond powder, other than saying "it would require much more industrial diamond than is currently produced".... Which is just.... Empty? Considering industry would change to account for such a drastic rise in demand.

[-] john89@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 days ago

The artificially-inflated price of the diamonds should be irrelevant in this calculation.

[-] sem 17 points 2 days ago

Isn't this kind of thing the premise for all those "snowball Earth" sci Fi stories where global cooling went too far

[-] Ydna@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

No don't worry about that!

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Break into the diamond company vaults and just take it. Bam, free diamonds.

[-] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

Sweet! Four more years of Trump presidency, and Elon Musk can just pay for it out of pocket.

[-] john89@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Elon musk's kids should be made an example of when reclamation comes around.

They're being brought up thinking they can live like gods. How unfortunate would it be if they actually had to live like the rest of us...

[-] tiefling 79 points 2 days ago

Does it have to be diamonds? Could we maybe use the ashes of billionaires instead?

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago

Human ashes are mostly carbon, so yes, of course. We'll run out of billionaires pretty quickly, though.

[-] vikingr@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago

Sounds like a win-win tbh

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 days ago

Let's give it a trial run with a few thousand then we can measure the impact and reevaluate.

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[-] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Isn't diamond manufactured in labs in 15 minutes now? I think the price is assuming natural diamonds value

[-] rusticus@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

Can we use zirconium for $1 trillion?

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[-] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 53 points 2 days ago

Yes, let's just have everyone on Earth breathe in diamond dust all day every day. There's no way that could be bad for our health.

[-] PlantJam@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago

There's never been a case of something having different behavior or health effects just because of a tiny chemical difference (trans fat) or size difference (micro plastics), what's the worst that could happen?

[-] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 days ago

There have never been lung issues caused by inhaling very small dust particles, right?

[-] desktop_user 10 points 2 days ago

just wear masks for a few decades, potentially respirators, and probably add whole house air filtration if you want to take it off at night.

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 55 points 2 days ago

Of all the aerosols they could think about!

No chance at all of a basically indestructible material not being destructed if absorbed by lungs (or gills) and leading to some disease. You don't need to check. There's no way this could go wrong.

Or, rather... I believe lead is cheaper... Given how much people like to use it, maybe it's a better option.

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Diamond Lung.

Sounds posh.

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 days ago

I was thinking asbestos...

[-] SacralPlexus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Whatever you do, don’t look up silicosis. Not a problem at all. Not relevant.

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah, like asbestos... if asbestos bio-accumulated forever.

Instead, the world has a few mechanisms that will make asbestos harmless after a few generations. Not so much for diamonds.

[-] pedro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

We're carbon based lifeforms and diamonds, yep, made of carbon. What could possibly go wrong!? /s

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[-] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

I'm still set on "we're fucked" until I see some more hopeful news.

When we are fucked and who is first fucked, and making sure I'm not that guy is what I'm trying to determine.

[-] pageflight@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

So what would it cost to replace all fossil fuel energy with renewable?

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[-] pageflight@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Thanks, hadn't seen that before. I wonder how things like "eat less beef" fit into that chart, or of that's part of the $0 premium.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

You are missing the point, because we need to do that anyway.
The idea is to prevent things from getting worse in the meantime.
Replacing fossil fuels take time no matter how much we invest.

[-] ComicalMayhem@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

ok but you just know corporations are going to use this as an excuse to keep using fossil fuels. like to them this is basically carte blanche to keep the status quo and block green energy from happening even harder. "oh hurdur har har we found a solution to climate change and it's dumping diamonds in the atmosphere, no need to pay for green energy anymore haha" type shit

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

corporations are going to use this as an excuse to keep using fossil fuels.

Corporations follow the law, the only way to solove this is to have the laws required.

[-] itslilith 5 points 1 day ago

Corporations follow the law

Good one

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Oh please, of course they don't always, but the ones that don't are generally forced to by oversight.
Yes I kn ow they generally get off easy, but then oversight is increased and if it continues, the penalties increase, until ultimately it will be forced to shut down if illegal activities continue.
So yes generally cooperations do follow the law.

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[-] dsilverz@thelemmy.club 17 points 2 days ago

Someone heard The Beatles (or maybe Rihanna) for their first time and thought "Diamonds in the sky... Huh... What if...".

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That amount sounds like total bullshit. Diamonds can be manufactured and once that is done at scale, it won't be all that expensive. Even at $10000 a ton, five million tonnes would cost just 50 billion.

[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 18 points 2 days ago

These are not good ideas. Remember that global warming is just an overarching effect of pollution which we will still have. What diamond dust pollution effects will be, no one knows, but I doubt we want to find out.

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

The fossil fuel oligarchy would prefer to give all mammals on Earth emphysema than stop burning fossils, and do it for 10x the price.

[-] Skua@kbin.earth 11 points 2 days ago

That number is for doing it anually for 65 years. It lists roughly 18 billion per year for the cost.

But besides that, I think you are greatly underestimating the cost of the diamonds. Synthetic ones are way cheaper than natural ones, yes, but there's a lot of room between "natural diamond expensive" and "actually cheap". Going by these prices https://www.diamondtech.com/products/categories/diamond_powder_price_list.html

It's $2.5 million per tonne. I assume you could get a cheaper price per weight if you're buying five million tonnes of anything, but it's still two orders of magnitude more expensive than you are guessing

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[-] PortoPeople@lemm.ee 17 points 2 days ago

It's not cost effective to save humanity. Stock prices would crash.

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 16 points 2 days ago

Nice try, DeBeers.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I don't get it, why wouldn't sapphire dust work? Isn't that dirt cheap to make? And it's carbon free!
Seems illogical to add carbon in the form of diamond, to a problem that is mostly caused by carbon?

[-] sem 4 points 2 days ago

The carbon isn't the problem, it's the CO2 molecule. I would be really curious if solid carbon in diamond form is able to react with ozone in the atmosphere to make CO2, or if it would be inert, or if it would do something else.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

It's also Methane and CO, gasses that also contain carbon. I know diamond is pretty stable, but it does burn, and then it creates the gasses we try to avoid.

[-] naught101@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

CO is not a significant greenhouse gas. (And N20 is..)

Are diamond particulates likely to burn if they're dispersed in the atmosphere?

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[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago

Just force debeers to open their vault. The cost would drop.

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