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Full Caucus Set to Vote After Key Panel Picks Pelosi-Backed Dem Over AOC for Oversight Spot (www.commondreams.org)
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Rep. Ro Khanna said that "many" in the House Democratic caucus, including himself, will back Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in Tuesday's vote.

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[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 118 points 10 months ago

Ngl I think AOC should straight up form a new party with Bernie or something like that, because the DNC is just gonna keep giving us the neoliberal shit sandwich until they’re subsumed by the Republican Party outright (other parties being outlawed, of course).

I know that end-state sounds hyperbolic, but at this point I wouldn’t be shocked if that’s how things eventually play out if this authoritarian slide continues.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 50 points 10 months ago

Except she spent the last election cycle mocking third parties and saying you need to 'build coalitions' by working within the party

If this is what she got for her support of Israel and 'working within the party', then I think she might have been taken for a ride

[-] DeadWorldWalking@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago

Like how Bernie "worked with" the Dems by bending the knee to Hillary after the 2016 primary?

Yeah idk why the progressives think they can work with the right wing obstructionists that are the Democratic party.

[-] ramsorge@discuss.online 15 points 10 months ago

Guess we should have all voted for that hack Stein. The green painted wing of the GOP

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 6 points 10 months ago

Better to vote for the pink-painted wing of the GOP

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 20 points 10 months ago

"The Dems are like the GOP but they don't hate women and gay people" is less of a gotcha than you think it is when you don't even deny that Stein is a fraud.

Kind of just tells us what you think of those issues.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 2 points 10 months ago

That's the thing about paint - sometimes it peels off of whatever shitty surface it's covering.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 8 points 10 months ago

I'll take liberals over Nazis, thanks.

Why won't you?

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 6 points 10 months ago

Pretending as if it's a binary choice is the reason why liberals end up compromising with nazis in the first place.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 points 10 months ago

It is a binary choice on election day, and even if it you believe in third party viability on principle Stein is still a fascist stooge.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 4 points 10 months ago

Just curious - does compromising/working with fascists make you a fascist stooge even when you're a liberal democrat?

Just want to make sure we're not operating on any double standards

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Nah, just a collaborator. Biden, for example, got to be president, which at least let him stop the fascist invasion of Ukraine.

Stooges are like collaborators only they're a complete joke that can't even win a single House seat, and would let both Ukraine and Palestine be genocide by dictators.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago

stop the fascist invasion of Ukraine.

Lol, did he, though? And by the same metric did he also 'stop' the fascist invasion of Palestine?

and would let both Ukraine and Palestine be genocide by dictators.

Weird how those are still happening then.

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[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 25 points 10 months ago

Except she spent the last election cycle mocking third parties and saying you need to 'build coalitions' by working within the party

She is right. Divide and conquer is a super effective strategy, the left loves doing the divide part to itself then acts shocked when it gets conquered.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 24 points 10 months ago

When your left-wing coalition depends on kowtowing to capital to survive, it isn't left-wing anymore.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 15 points 10 months ago

So make yourself smaller, less relevant, less resources but ideologically pure. Not exactly a winning formula. You go to war with the army you've got, not the army you wish you had.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago

The call is coming from inside the house, bud.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 5 points 10 months ago

Go make your political party made up of exclusively people to the left of Elizabeth Warren and let me know how the half dozen of you do

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 6 points 10 months ago

Is she really your standard bearer for 'left'....?

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[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago

Unfortunately not the first time AOC’s “learned” this lesson. See? She is a great Dem, learn nothing and do it again.

[-] Xanis@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

It's not a bad idea. However, better would be a reforming and rebranding of the current DNC's image. It is the right time to begin setting the foundations though, make no mistake.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 17 points 10 months ago

However, better would be a reforming and rebranding of the current DNC's image.

And how would anyone go about that when the party leadership is fighting them at every turn?

[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 12 points 10 months ago

The only legal way would be to mimic the corporations that captured the DNC to begin with, basically bribes.

You'd have to create a super PAC that only funds left leaning democratic candidates, and one that would be willing to fund primaries against incumbents within the DNC.

The main problem is that parties only care about funding now, and there aren't exactly a bunch of leftist billionaires.

Citizens vs United basically ensured that any form of social economic reform is off the table for the foreseeable future. The political parties are bought and paid for, and will continue to funnel public spending into privatization until capitalism reaches terminal growth.

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[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Seconded

[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Fuck the Democratic Party. We demand Progressive Party

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Now is the perfect time to put together a new party. We have two years to make it viable. Assuming we still have elections.

[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 months ago

!newpoliticalparty@lemmy.world is a new community for this purpose. Unfortunate it’s on .world

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago

Hopefully the old fuck just has a stroke tomorrow and keels over. That would be a fitting divine punishment for his hubris and desperate clinging to power. Those that refuse to let the next generation take the reins in their time deserve to sudden suffer sudden heart attacks. Peaceful retirement is for those who actually are willing to retire.

[-] Zorsith 5 points 10 months ago

Where's a Death Note when the world needs one?

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

If I get my hands on one of those, I'm going to need a microfiche writer...

Also, be prepared for a thousand fold multiplying of deaths due to auto-erotic asphyxiation...

[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 15 points 10 months ago

We need so many more Luigi's to fix this country for the hand sitters.
-Me, a hand sitter

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

> I'm here to end insider politics!

> *plays insider politics*

> *gets fucked by insider politics*

Who could have seen this coming?

[-] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 months ago

Imagine being such a hater that's up your own ass that you hate AOC.

[-] blattrules@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

It’s great when the people running the country on both sides refuse to learn anything from their mistakes.

[-] ramsorge@discuss.online 4 points 10 months ago

There seems to be only one side, with minor views on which group of people they are targeting.

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[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

And so AOC compromised everything she claimed to believe in for nothing. Still refused her seat at the table.

Let this be a lesson to any other progressives who thinks they can sell out to gain favor with party leadership.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 18 points 10 months ago

Who or what did she sell out?

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[-] FearfulSalad@ttrpg.network 11 points 10 months ago

Do you even read?

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Yes, but I’m guessing a lot more theory and a lot less propaganda than you.

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[-] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

If only the government gave a fuck about personal morals

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