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Rep. Ro Khanna said that "many" in the House Democratic caucus, including himself, will back Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in Tuesday's vote.

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[-] archomrade@midwest.social 50 points 10 months ago

Except she spent the last election cycle mocking third parties and saying you need to 'build coalitions' by working within the party

If this is what she got for her support of Israel and 'working within the party', then I think she might have been taken for a ride

[-] DeadWorldWalking@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago

Like how Bernie "worked with" the Dems by bending the knee to Hillary after the 2016 primary?

Yeah idk why the progressives think they can work with the right wing obstructionists that are the Democratic party.

[-] ramsorge@discuss.online 15 points 10 months ago

Guess we should have all voted for that hack Stein. The green painted wing of the GOP

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 6 points 10 months ago

Better to vote for the pink-painted wing of the GOP

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 20 points 10 months ago

"The Dems are like the GOP but they don't hate women and gay people" is less of a gotcha than you think it is when you don't even deny that Stein is a fraud.

Kind of just tells us what you think of those issues.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 2 points 10 months ago

That's the thing about paint - sometimes it peels off of whatever shitty surface it's covering.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 8 points 10 months ago

I'll take liberals over Nazis, thanks.

Why won't you?

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 6 points 10 months ago

Pretending as if it's a binary choice is the reason why liberals end up compromising with nazis in the first place.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 points 10 months ago

It is a binary choice on election day, and even if it you believe in third party viability on principle Stein is still a fascist stooge.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 4 points 10 months ago

Just curious - does compromising/working with fascists make you a fascist stooge even when you're a liberal democrat?

Just want to make sure we're not operating on any double standards

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Nah, just a collaborator. Biden, for example, got to be president, which at least let him stop the fascist invasion of Ukraine.

Stooges are like collaborators only they're a complete joke that can't even win a single House seat, and would let both Ukraine and Palestine be genocide by dictators.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago

stop the fascist invasion of Ukraine.

Lol, did he, though? And by the same metric did he also 'stop' the fascist invasion of Palestine?

and would let both Ukraine and Palestine be genocide by dictators.

Weird how those are still happening then.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 10 months ago

Nice that you admit that your boys are fascists that want to make both situations worse.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 1 points 10 months ago

I'm not sure who you're suggesting are 'my boys'

[-] ramsorge@discuss.online 2 points 10 months ago

The Parlor Pink shade, comrade?

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago

Either way, honestly - it's a thin, flaky coat of paint on a reactionary bourgeois political party

[-] ramsorge@discuss.online 1 points 10 months ago

The solution is to depose everyone who has a finger in politics today, starting from the top down.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 1 points 10 months ago

"Be kind to people, be ruthless to systems."

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 25 points 10 months ago

Except she spent the last election cycle mocking third parties and saying you need to 'build coalitions' by working within the party

She is right. Divide and conquer is a super effective strategy, the left loves doing the divide part to itself then acts shocked when it gets conquered.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 24 points 10 months ago

When your left-wing coalition depends on kowtowing to capital to survive, it isn't left-wing anymore.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 15 points 10 months ago

So make yourself smaller, less relevant, less resources but ideologically pure. Not exactly a winning formula. You go to war with the army you've got, not the army you wish you had.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago

The call is coming from inside the house, bud.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 5 points 10 months ago

Go make your political party made up of exclusively people to the left of Elizabeth Warren and let me know how the half dozen of you do

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 6 points 10 months ago

Is she really your standard bearer for 'left'....?

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 2 points 10 months ago

I used her as an example of someone not left wing enough for you guys to share a party with.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 10 months ago

When the army you have sabotages you at every turn you absolutely do remove the obstructive elements. The modern Democratic party will simply never allow leftists to have any kind of political power. That's not how they roll, and by the time anything change America will have went full autocrat or starved to death.

[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago

Unfortunately not the first time AOC’s “learned” this lesson. See? She is a great Dem, learn nothing and do it again.

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