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submitted 3 days ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

Summary

Proposed amendments to Iraq’s Personal Status Law could allow girls as young as 9 to marry, sparking outrage from rights groups and survivors like “Batta,” who endured abuse after being forced into marriage at 11.

The changes would shift decision-making power to clerics, undermining existing protections for women and children established in 1959.

Supporters claim the amendments promote family values, but critics call them a violation of children’s rights and a step toward legalized child abuse.

Activists and lawmakers are working to block the controversial proposal.

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[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago

Well yeah, it is rape and child abuse.

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 69 points 3 days ago

I would imagine that fueling rape and child abuse is the point.

[-] ramsorge@discuss.online 31 points 2 days ago

Republicans are taking notes.

[-] EpeeGnome@lemm.ee 56 points 2 days ago

They don't need to take any notes. Child marriage is legal and still happening in many US states. And you guessed it, it's Replicans who defend those laws, by invoking "family values".

It's horrible that they plan to change the law to allow that to happen over there, but we here in the US aren't in any position to feel morally superior about it till we finally ban it ourselves.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 70 points 3 days ago

I have maybe a handful of memories made under 9 years old. Just imagine being married for as far back as you can remember. These poor girls

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago

Oh don't worry, trauma victims will have plenty of memories from that age 🤢🤮

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

Others, like fellow Shia lawmaker Alya Nassif, called for the proposals to be voted down like similar amendments were in 2014 and 2017. Calling the proposals “dangerous,” Nassif said the law “threatens society and families.” She added that the members of parliament had been presented with “a collection of ideas written on two sheets of paper,” rather than “legal articles that are needed to be discussed for voting.”

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

More proof, to me at least, that there is no god out there.

[-] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mean really yeah.

Either God doesn't exist. Or God does exist and allows this crap to happen, which is akin to just approving of it. And if that's the case hail Satan.

[-] Stamau123@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

claim the amendments support family values

I mean I guess it makes more family, but Jesus Christ

[-] john89@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago

Morons: They should get the run the country how they want, and if you don't like it LEAVE.

[-] hark@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Was this a thing when Saddam was still in charge?

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Were illegal marriages a thing when Saddam was still in charge, or were legislation proposals with any ambiguity about passing a thing when Saddam was still in charge?

Yes. No. Respectively.

Great JAQing off about a dictator who gouged out children's eyes.

For those wondering about the issue of child marriage in Iraq before the modern day who aren't perpetual apologists for whatever fascists they can find to drool over,

“I lost my life the day my marriage began. I was 13, and the man I had to marry was 20 years older than me.” Shaima’s story is one told only within the intimacy of a home. Nestled on the couch of a modest yet tastefully decorated living room, she sips her Turkish coffee, ensuring there are enough grounds left to read her fortune in search of signs of better days. She smokes cigarette after cigarette, taking a long drag before exhaling as if symbolically releasing her life story.

Born in 1977 in a village near Basra in southern Iraq, Shaima was the eldest of nine siblings raised amid the violence of the 1980s Iran-Iraq War. It was a childhood “with just enough money to buy bread each day, nothing more,” she recalled. “My father sold me to the brother of one of his friends. I didn’t want to marry him; he was too old, violent, and always angry. But I couldn’t refuse.” From this forced marriage came five children. “I had my first child at 14. I was so young and exhausted that one day, I fell asleep while breastfeeding my baby girl. She suffocated and died.” The silence that followed the confession is crushing.

https://international.la-croix.com/world/in-iraq-activists-fight-against-potential-return-of-child-marriages

[-] hark@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I don't know why you have to be so hostile over a genuine question.

[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

What hostility? Don't "just ask questions" if you're not man enough for the answer.

[-] hark@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

What hostility?

JAQing off about a dictator

perpetual apologists for whatever fascists they can find to drool over

Yeah, what hostility? 🙄

Then you add in some dumb shit about being "man enough" without a shred of self-awareness. Are you trolling or are you genuinely like this? Note that PugJesus has yet to show where I was "just asking questions" ever, but don't let that get in the way of your cheerleading for his baseless accusations.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Because you have a pattern of 'just asking questions' on every fascist cunt who comes up? I apologize for having a basic sense of pattern recognition.

[-] hark@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Who else did I ask questions about?

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Oh, is this going to be like the last time you played dumb as to your past statements, and then when I brought receipts you went silent on the topic and proceeded to waste my fucking time? If it is, I'd at least like to know beforehand.

[-] hark@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

You certainly have a wild imagination because if you're referring to the time I think you are, the last time you brought "receipts" it was you linking to posts of mine not containing anything you claimed I wrote. I don't know why you're so angry at me, but perhaps you would be better able to read my posts and not hallucinate patterns if you weren't in a blind rage.

It really is unfortunate because I appreciate the information you gave in your initial response, but the hostility was so off-putting.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You certainly have a wild imagination because if you’re referring to the time I think you are, the last time you brought “receipts” it was you linking to posts of mine not containing anything you claimed I wrote.

Fucking lol

Maybe stop cheerleading atrocities and fascists if you can't even keep track of how often you fucking do it.

It really is unfortunate because I appreciate the information you gave in your initial response, but the hostility was so off-putting.

Oh, I'm sorry that I was rude to you when all you were doing was trying to play your usual "Amerikkka Bad" card by whitewashing a dictator who tortured and murdered on a literally genocidal scale. You know, not unlike what you do with Assad? Would you like to play apologist for the Taliban next? I know you're just drooling over the possibility.

[-] hark@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I don't know what you think that link is supposed to show, but you'd have to be on something powerful to think me saying democrats should try to stop the genocide instead of sending billions in support is somehow me "cheerleading atrocities".

I still don't know what I did to piss you off so much, but apparently you're so angry that you've built a whole strawman of me and you've just been fighting with that strawman this entire time. Have fun with that, hope it helps you relieve stress.

[-] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

Nope, he was absolutely not a good man, but he kept order and stability that America and Israel to wipe that out.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 10 points 2 days ago
[-] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago

I'm sorry, is your source just a literal Wikipedia page? Are you serious? Bro get outta here 🤣

[-] ManixT@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Your response is so damn stupid.

Theie link is to a Wikipedia article, which anyone can correct. I know you won't, because you don't care about the truth.

[-] Harvey656@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Wikipedia articles also can link to more sources off-site, so one Wikipedia link can be dozens if not more sources.

[-] ManixT@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Seriously. It is just insane anyone takes these people seriously.

Every comment from them seems like part of a disinformation campaign.

[-] Harvey656@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Every comment likely is. I'm not one for stereotyping, but there is a very clear pattern.

[-] Harvey656@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm Sorry, is your home instance .ml? Are you serious? Bro get outta here :dumbass emoji:

[-] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

What? I'm sorry I'm not joining you on that basement dweeb back and forth about home instance 🤣🤣🤣 I'm using Lemmy as a Reddit alternative, and ml was just the choice I set on because I love an underdog number 2 instance. you should consider touching grass and getting a hobby, there's bigger things in this world than this dude. Let it be a wake-up call before it's too late

[-] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

When the laws being made are by a US-made puppet government that did not exist in the past regime... It's time to call things for how they are.

Edit: changed some phrasing

[-] schizolol9@lemy.lol 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You know what fuck Iraq! The raping of children has got to stop!

[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

The article is about Iraq, not Iran.

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