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[-] ellypony@lemmy.world 319 points 1 month ago
[-] ramsorge@discuss.online 133 points 1 month ago

Yeah they keep calling him radicalized. I just keep thinking this is a normal reaction and that corporate America and its shills are the radical ones.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago

I've read the manifesto. I have the same thoughts as you. I wonder with all these people calling him radical if maybe there's a fake manifesto out there. Something created JUST to make him sound crazy? That would explain the wildly different views of him being radical.

Remember, one month ago, the shooting hadn't happened yet. Nobody knew Luigis name or face. So if you go from not knowing he exists, to seeing him murder a guy, and then get told he has plans for domination, and kill all the people......it would be logical to understand why someone would call that perspective radicalized.

That's not what he is, or what he wrote, but if you read a fake manifesto, believed it to be real, that would explain people saying that.

Otherwise, I'm confused where "radicalized" comes from.

[-] NewDark@lemmings.world 37 points 1 month ago

The media attempting to paint a narrative. Consent manufacturering machine go brrr.

[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 30 points 1 month ago

People don't read the manifesto, just the headlines calling him radicalised.

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[-] duplexsystem 48 points 1 month ago

Sadly reasonable conclusions based on reality is pretty based.

[-] SpicyLizards@reddthat.com 22 points 1 month ago

Oh no, reality is leaking into the media! We must stop this unapproved narrative!

[-] halykthered@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago

Read that in his voice, well done.

[-] AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 155 points 1 month ago

That's what reddit banned, it's so innocuous.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 149 points 1 month ago

They didn't ban it because it was dangerous or violent, They banned it because the anti-corporate and spez is a musk wanna be

[-] spector@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 month ago

Thiel is one of reddits earliest investors. spez is a Thiel boy.

This whole time I can't believe how reddit managed to hold up a facade of being a cool progressive college student platform. They pulled the wool over everyone's eyes. It's as if they put lipstick on /pol/ and /b/. And everyone was like, alright a hip liberal platform. Sure if you ignore the iceberg of right wing bootlicking shit beneath the surface of the default subreddits.

[-] Draegur@lemm.ee 37 points 1 month ago

barbara streissand has taught them nothing apparently

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 20 points 1 month ago

It's pretty shitty as far as manifestos go.

[-] KillingAndKindess 58 points 1 month ago

I mean, he claims responsibility, confirmed the existing evidence, then states his motives which aren't hard to understand for even those out of the loop. I think the brevity and simple reasoning speak volumes louder than some maniacs scribblings found in a cabin. The fact that even those considered Semliterate would be able to grasp the bulk of his message was likely intentional.

Its actually not shitty at all, presuming his purpose was to inspire a shift in public discourse around the topic.

If he wanted it to be the centerpiece of a dramatic documentary miniseries, then yes, it was shitty.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 43 points 1 month ago

I appreciate how quick a read is it. Much more likely for random people to read it and start thinking and then you can jump out of the bushes and go "surprise, you just read a manifesto!"

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Yes it is. So what. The rich glorifies violence against the poor.

The leader of the country once said: "When the looting starts, the shooting starts"

So if its apparantly okay to use violence against alledged thieves (which is not okay btw, stealing should never equate a death sentence), then it must be okay to use violence against mass murderer CEOs.

"When the denying starts, the deposing starts" would be my rebuttal to that phase the ex-president said. Violence begets violence.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You get points for honesty, at least. Most people in here don't even admit this is a call for violence.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

So if its apparantly okay to use violence against alledged thieves (which is not okay btw, stealing should never equate a death sentence), then it must be okay to use violence against mass murderer CEOs.

The reason violence against "looters" is permitted stems from their violation of the principles of the American caste system

Contrary to popular belief, you are not allowed to pull yourself up by your own bootstraps. You are only allowed to help yourself when you've received lending permission from a state recognized philanthropic sponsor. Otherwise, you are supposed to quietly drown in your own filth, where it isn't inconvenient for anyone higher on the totem pole than you.

The caste system is sacred. Brian Thompson earned his position. Luigi Mangione deserved his miserable fate.

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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 103 points 1 month ago

If sharing Luigi's manifesto is glorifying violence then so is sharing the Declaration of Independence.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If only Thomas Jefferson had somehow managed to cap a member of English Royalty. Instead, then Jefferson crossed the pond to suck up to Louis XVI, shortly before the man went full Ropespierre's Necktie.

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[-] Matombo@feddit.org 88 points 1 month ago

note that reddit didn't have a problem with "orks must die jokes" or people celebrating war fotage as long as they celebrate the right peoples deaths

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago

Drone kill footage is like the reciepts of investment, if not the product itself.

[-] taanegl@lemmy.ml 67 points 1 month ago

Reddit gargles fascist schlong.

Nuff said.

[-] letsgo@lemm.ee 49 points 1 month ago

Of course not, it's just Spez sucking up to the billionaires in the hope that one of them will be dumb enough to toss him a few million for his shitpile.

[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 47 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

For a website with sections called nsfl and fight porn reddit takes a weird stance on manifestos.

[-] Kevnyon@lemm.ee 14 points 1 month ago

You mean the website that didn't ban creepshots until MSM reported on it? That website?

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[-] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 45 points 1 month ago

Stop using Reddit

[-] pachrist@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago

No, it's not.

It's an acknowledgement that there's a massive problem.

These companies are literally willing to bankrupt you to death. Their behavior is inexcusable. They profiteer off of human suffering.

We live in a country founded by people who were unhappy with the status quo and were willing to pick up a gun to change things. We shouldn't act surprised that it still happens. I don't think we should celebrate it, because it's sad that this is happening in the first place, that someone feels they need to do this. This problem is solvable, and it can be solved civilly, or it will be solved uncivilly.

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[-] metaStatic@kbin.earth 39 points 1 month ago

I can't believe you've done this

[-] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 month ago

Is anyone with a pulse still on reedit? All I ever see there are AIO/AITA/best of creative writing exercises that reek of ChatGPT

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 month ago

Reddit was full of false outrage and fake stories long before GPT ever existed. Just the last few people that were willing to post have kind of wandered off. I think we got the best of them here

[-] Interstellar_1 13 points 1 month ago

I'm there for certain communities that aren't active here. I still don't use the official client though, it's horrible

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[-] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 38 points 1 month ago

See, then you are giving a murderer's message publicity. As opposed to UnitedHealthcare, responsible for far more many deaths, having the ability to have as much publicity and as many lobbyists as they want.

[-] ramsorge@discuss.online 33 points 1 month ago

I mean, lots of .world communities will censor it too, and they’re still FEDerated.

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[-] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I've always thought well educated people have a great potential to be dangerous and achieve transcendental goals if organized. A group of engineers, of chemists, physicists, biologists, computer scientists after specific goals may be formidable enemies if they wanted. The 0.001%, the dirty rich, should now be aware.

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[-] Gemini24601@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

Anyone with half a brain can see that it isn’t “glorifying” violence, it’s merely giving an explanation of why Luigi did what he did. Glorification would play more into pathos, but the manifesto is mostly ethos

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[-] peregrin5@lemm.ee 30 points 1 month ago

Hi I’m new to Lemmy since Reddit decided to permaban me due to support I showed for Luigi. Good riddance to be honest. I should have fully quit when they shut down Apollo but didn’t know Lemmy existed.

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[-] Chozo@fedia.io 28 points 1 month ago

Depends on the context in which you're sharing it.

If you share it with a title like "We need more of this", then yeah, because you're encouraging further acts like it. If you share it with a title like "This is the manifesto written by the alleged CEO killer", then that's not inherently glorifying violence, you're just sharing something you found and being informative. But if you share it in response to the question "Hey Reddit, what are some fun things I can do in NYC this weekend?", then you're back toward the "glorifying" side. Context makes all the difference.

Whether or not anybody gives a shit about that distinction, though, is a different question.

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[-] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

Fuck Reddit.

[-] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 22 points 1 month ago

Reddit also thinks appealing a ridiculous van is harassment, so not exactly the brightest bulbs over there.

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[-] zkfcfbzr@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

They really couldn't figure out that that first [indecipherable] is "fourth"?

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[-] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Glorifying violence is A-Ok when the government awards people the Medal of Honor.

Reddit needs to come up with a more accurate excuse for their censorship.

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[-] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Would it's get me banned to reply with "I love reading about CEOs getting killed, and I want more of them to die"?

Edit:in minecraft.

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[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago

No .... and stop following anything that stupid website says.

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