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[-] gibmiser@lemmy.world 85 points 2 months ago

No, don't throw the younger generations under the bus to clean up our messes.

If nothing else we are ride or die with them.

[-] iheartneopets@lemm.ee 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Unfortunately you won't die with us, you'll die much sooner, not choking on a lack of oxygen or dying of dehydration.

We need more elders like those in Japan who volunteered to clean up nuclear waste because they wouldn't have to live with the long-term side effects of being exposed to radiation.

As elders, y'all wouldn't have to live as long in jail ¯\(ツ)

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago

Just get a vasectomy so your children won't be wage slaves. EZ

[-] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 71 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

General strike in the US seems like less of an impossibility year by year

Just restating some of the greatest hits:

  1. Universal healthcare

  2. Universal education through university level or trade school

  3. At least a month pto annually

  4. Parental leave for births

  5. Guaranteed sick leave

  6. 32hr new full time threshold before overtime

  7. Only public, equal funds for elections, no PACs/dark money/donations, no lobbyist bribes

  8. Any elected official over a certain level cannot engage in trading of individual stocks or own businesses, dump it all in an index fund or hand off management to someone else they cannot contact without a mediator and recording, immediate expulsion & no longer able to hold office when found in violation

  9. No billionaires/oligarchs, anyone with earnings and assets over a billion should be taxed at 100% and assets redistributed

Edit: May 1st 2028 looks like a good target thanks to the UAW https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/general-strike-2028-unions-labor-movement/

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 months ago

Nothing about replacing First-past-the-post voting?

[-] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Campaign finance reform under 7 would allow further reforms to follow, without those regulatory capture and bribery are legal and prevent any other electoral reforms benefiting the working class.

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[-] DogWater@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Remember when the railroad threatened to strike and nacy pelosi said they would throw them in jail if they didn't go to work.....fucking unreal.

A few take aways:

They need us so fucking bad

They will do anything to maintain control

No one at that level is fighting for you

Solidarity will be hard to achieve because those threats will be too much for people on the ropes in their day to day life to endure.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Remember when the railroad threatened to strike and nacy pelosi said they would throw them in jail if they didn’t go to work…fucking unreal.

There's a great WTYP on this, detailing how the inability/refusal to strike has resulted in an exodus/early retirement of train engineers sufficient to knee-cap the industry already. Increased incidence of train derailments, higher rates of rail jams and mechanical failures, and generally slower delivery times are all the result of the decline in experienced and knowledgeable industry workers.

None of this matters to the train management, which has reaped an enormous windfall in profits at the steady marginal decline in network efficiency. Monopoly means you either pay the cartel for degraded service or you ship using a more expensive method.

Solidarity will be hard to achieve because those threats will be too much for people on the ropes in their day to day life to endure.

Its important to recognize modern capitalist control as a form of hostage taking. "Pay us the ransom or your critical infrastructure get its", even as we're receiving fingers and earlobes in the mail with every passing year.

Solidarity is about liberating these critical components of infrastructure and operating them for the benefit of the public. The goal isn't to shut down these institutions, but to run them without profiteers leeching the excess revenue. That's why some of the most effective economic protests don't involve suspending services, but operating them while refusing to collect fees for service.

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[-] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 months ago

Why not beta test a general strike on Jan 6, 2025?

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[-] innermeerkat@jlai.lu 5 points 2 months ago

General strike in the US sounds more like a civil war

[-] Melody@lemmy.one 3 points 2 months ago

@ #9; Whoa there. 100% is unreasonable. Still there's room to start at a hard 90% at about 250 million and then incrementally scale until the tax is say, about 95-97% by about a billion.

Unfortunately you cannot tax anyone 100%; that would ultimately be unfair and demotivating and only motivate corruption to avoid the tax

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

It's progressive. You're still allowed to have a billion. That's just a cap. Anything past that goes to the public.

[-] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

You’re still allowed to have a billion

Why? Why do you feel the need to hold on to this "aspiration"?

You will never become a billionaire, stop defending your exploiters.

[-] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago

demotivating

that's the motherfucking point, bootlicker.

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[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world 52 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

When you take away people's reason to live, their time, their hobbies, their ability to raise a family, their loved ones, you make those people very desperate...

...you might not be glad that you did.

glares in Nick Fury

[-] weeeeum@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

"The most dangerous man is the man with nothing to lose"

[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 7 points 2 months ago

very apt quote.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago

With the suicide rate as high as it is, I’m honestly shocked more people don’t try to take these scumbags with them.

[-] ceenote@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Who's to say you can't get conscripted out of prison to die in the climate wars?

[-] ODGreen@slrpnk.net 13 points 2 months ago

Russia already is doing this!

[-] ceenote@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

They're so ahead of the times!

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 7 points 2 months ago

Surrender and/or nade the commissar tent?

[-] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 months ago

There's only so many CEOs and billionaires

[-] lefaucet@slrpnk.net 28 points 2 months ago
[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

And they're stuck in here with us

[-] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 months ago

jail is not fun. no computer.

[-] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Sneak one in in your butt

[-] repungnant_canary@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago
[-] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Which country has both abusive crony-capitalist billionaire CEOs and fun jail?

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 17 points 2 months ago

3 squares a day and lots of admiration vs unlimited access to distraction-ary cat pics

[-] Snailpope@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

I did electrical work at a state prison in Nebraska a couple times. Most of the inmates had tablets with semi restricted internet access. So they still get the cat pics

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

Some prisons let you have a kitty

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 months ago
[-] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Or be like me and try to do such a deed then realize your bad aim in video games carry over IRL, then you get shot dead by their security and go to some purgatory with this moment replayed forever, reminding you how much of a failure you were.

The only reason I don't want to try is because if I miss, its gonna be so embarassing, I don't even wanna thinkg about it.

[-] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

I bet that's why poisoning was so big before guns. Like who has the time to learn archery.

[-] Elaine@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago

This would be me if I took the three squares with free housing and healthcare route.

[-] krashmo@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Who would win?

2700 soft nerds with at least one billion small pieces of paper each

VS

300 million chimps with access to the internet and Mountain Dew™

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[-] AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago

I say we embrace the French culture and take up guillotines.

[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 8 points 2 months ago

on the plus side, i now know that if a climate disaster doesn't do me in, the french revolution 2 electric boogaloo will

[-] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

This is the way

[-] Damionsipher@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Why not both? I have a strong suspicion the climate wars are going also be a class wars. Although, if the common folk won't, getting jailed for war crimes against the rich may never be prosecuted 🤷‍♂️

[-] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

Aren't all wars?

[-] peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

Hey maybe someone will spend life in prison for disposing a president ele... better not finish typing that one out

[-] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Two people have tried, so far.

[-] fantasyocean@lemmy.myserv.one 6 points 2 months ago

Lol, like anyone here is going to do anything other than protect their own comforts

[-] tywarth@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Even better, a European CEO, where prisons are nice and cozy.

[-] Obi@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 months ago

Now I just need to figure out which crimes would get me life in Norway without hurting anyone. Maybe that's not a bad backup retirement plan to be honest...

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago

Intentional heroin overdose

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