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Context: Technology Connections is a YouTuber https://www.youtube.com/@TechnologyConnections

This is his account on Mastodon https://mas.to/@TechConnectify

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[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 65 points 1 week ago

Not at all surprised.

I follow Alec on Mastodon and the vast majority of interactions over the past few months have been people aggressively "well ackshually"ing him or outright getting angry.

That isn't to say it is all shit (I would like to think a few conversations I had with him were mutually pleasant). But his entire ethos is that he approaches problems from a practical "midwesterner" perspective. And that REALLY angers all the ideological nutjobs who are angry if anyone even suggests something that won't advance their own pseudo-political goals.

And I've noticed it with a lot of other "celebrities" on Mastodon. The rest of us can have fun conversations while the shitheads stay to themselves. They are too high profile and the shitheads flock to them to make sure they understand why they are actually wrong and are a bad person for thinking something.

[-] sundrei@lemmy.sdf.org 49 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

When you compare Alec's recent videos with his early ones, it's pretty clear that the negativity he receives has been wearing him down. Like many YouTubers, even when he's sharing information about something he loves, he's very bitter and sarcastic about it. Like, half of each video is trying to pre-argue with his trolls.

I understand why popular content creators have to set boundaries because it seems like a pretty soul-destroying job to have. If Bluesky helps him do that, more power to him. But for a nobody like me, I prefer Mastodon, largely because I've made friends with people on my local instance, and interacting with other servers is merely a bonus feature.

[-] HEXN3T 33 points 1 week ago

How low do you have to be to criticise Alec? He's funny, informative, and I love the presentation of his videos. One of the last remaining great YouTubers. Apparently, being a pedophile is more acceptable on YouTube than being a good person. Now, why did I leave again..

[-] sundrei@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 week ago

Agreed. Technology Connections is one of my favorite channels -- it's always a good day when Alec posts a new video. I wish people would treat him better, he certainly deserves it.

[-] nomous@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

It's a joy to watch someone passionate and well-researched talk about something they enjoy. His videos do nothing but make me happy and interested in a thing. I can't imagine someone watching him and getting mad about it.

[-] BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Aww man, who is being mean to Alec? The guy is a YouTube gem.

[-] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 39 points 1 week ago

I'm sorry he hasn't liked it, but critique is how we get better. Hope Mastodon keeps growing.

[-] Kichae@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 week ago

It's frustrating, because a lot of the interesting people to follow and engage with on Mastodon have also jumped to Bluesky, and the fedi crowd continues to crow about algorithms and brain rot, when the biggest reason people bounce off of Mastodon is the other people on Mastodon.

There's a deep undercurrent of "angry, hostile nerd". When people started flooding Mastodon in 2022, you could see the binary reaction of "Finally, the recognition we deserve!" and also "you're in my house now, you fucking normie, and you'd better start acting like it".

Unsurprisingly, the "fucking normies" noped out, either immediately, or as soon as they had another option that satisfied their objections with Twitter.

But we're going to wring our hands and bitch about onboarding flows and the great sin of defederation, because it let's us ignore that we are the problem.

[-] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago

I don't know how to word it, but what I really hate about mastodon is that the cancel culture is like 10x every other platform. As soon as you have a slight disagreement on something it's because you're a homophobe and a racist and an ableist and you hate autistic people and whatnot. If the word woke wasn't so used by trump to mean not being a fascist, it would be reserved for this kind of people. Idk I don't like that mastodon is basically full of self diagnosed neuro divergent people. There are two extremes on the political spectrum, there's the facist and mastodonists. I understand why someone wouldnt want to stay on there, it's genuinely not a good place to have discussions on

[-] Kichae@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's got a lot of untreated, traumatized people, and frustrated power nerds on it, and both groups let you know it with haste.

The kicker is, the population is still small enough that they could be easily overwhelmed and put in their place, but you need a real mass of semi-tightly networked people to come over and take over the space, and that's.... just not the way community migrations work. So they can fairly safely gatekeep the space.

Well, until Threads washes over everything. I don't want to give shit to Zucks, but Threads will fundamentally change the makeup of the fedi microblog space in an instant, and that instant is growing ever closer.

[-] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 week ago

You don't understand why or how platforms like these got made, don't you?

If enough people came in to "put them in their place", the way you describe, this place would basically become Threads (or Twitter) anyway.

[-] Kichae@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I do know. I just don't care. I believe in an open internet, not a place set aside for people to live out their Revenge of the Nerds fantasies. ActivityPub allows people to have their sheltered spaces, and also not attack the public square.

They're choosing to attack the public square anyway, because they don't want their shelters, they want the whole fucking world. And they can't have it.

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[-] hono4kami@pawb.social 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I agree!!!

Speaking of critique, this reply thread on Mastodon by him is probably worth reading (regardless whether you agree or not) https://mas.to/@TechConnectify/113056731556590285

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[-] lordnikon@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Honestly I feel the fediverse is like the 90s internet. It's like school clubs centered around different interests and it takes a little bit of work to find your peer group but once you do it's great. People that look to it as a replacement for Twitter are looking for a town square to shout at people and hock their wares. Anyone that makes money from engagement ether directly or indirectly are not looking for camaraderie but a market.

[-] mke@programming.dev 11 points 1 week ago

Maybe this is part of why I keep bouncing off Mastodon. It feels tight-knit. It's about individuals, about relationships.

I don't fit in such a system. I've nothing to offer in a relationship, I cannot be a "comrade." Still, I want news, media, and easily accessible knowledge being shared.

So, I'm a lurker, a consumer. I tend towards anonymous forums and spaces centered around topics rather than people. Or, I seek celebrities, and sellers, and content creators.

Either sort-of give me something I want, while Mastodon doesn't. Too focused on the people, but without big names to follow.

[-] sem 5 points 1 week ago

Maybe that's why I didn't like Bluesky it was all attention-seeking and curated accounts

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[-] leadore@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Mastodon is more for people who like to have interactions or conversations back and forth with other people, while the big platforms are for influencers/broadcasters and consumers/viewers-- any back and forth interactions there are more between commenters than with the influencer/broadcaster. Of course there is some overlap and exceptions to that characterization, but that's how it generally seems to me.

So IMO it's not a competition, there's plenty of room for both types of SM. Depending on a person's preference they may use just Masto, just big SM, or use both, each for different reasons. The problem is when people expect Mastodon to be just like xitter/bsky/threads and get upset that it isn't. Relax and use whichever platform(s) you like.

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[-] Shatur@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago

I feel like we need to unite and make Mastodon a better place instead of making drama about it. Mastodon is not perfect, but it's a platform over which we have control, unlike Bluesky.

[-] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

I had to unfollow him because discussion on my feed ended up so overwhelmingly negative I just didn't want that in my life :/

[-] Zachariah@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

So, unfortunately when I go to Mastodon these days it's a bit of a ghost town. And I say unfortunately with sincerity - there are some things I really liked about the ethos behind it. However, the reason I'm posting this here is that I couldn't put it there without getting instant shit. 🧵…

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 15 points 1 week ago

im confused. is it a ghost town, or is it full of people giving him instant 'shit'?

[-] rowinxavier@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

I think he is saying that of the total interactions he gets he would expect a large amount of hostility to his opinion on Mastodon, and it is also a small population which is available to interact with on platform. Consistent, just talking about the experience and an objective measure. In my opinion Mastodon will be helped by Bluesky adding a paid membership. The worse it is the better for Mastodon, and honestly if people have already started moving out from Twitter to Bluesky they are not locked in yet so moving out again is easier, they already dropped Twitter but Bluesky is not solidified yet.

[-] haverholm@kbin.earth 9 points 1 week ago

"Ghost town" = Not driven to oversharing by algorithms.

"getting shit" = nobody wanting to listen to a youtuber's outrage bait.

It must be confusing to log into the fediverse straight off of Youtube, though. "Why aren't people compulsively clicking and subscribing to everything? How am I not being recommended radicalising posts by conspiracy theorists and terror organisations within five clicks?"

"Honey, this is Mastodon"

<switches to Blooskie>

"Ah, much better!"

[-] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago

This comment right here. This is what he's talking about.

[-] haverholm@kbin.earth 5 points 1 week ago

Good, mission accomplished 👍

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 20 points 1 week ago

You don't have to be a dick, you know. There are other ways to live.

[-] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago

The problem is the lack of auto-hiding of comments like this. Normally, on a Reddit thread, this would be buried and shunted to a "click here to read the stupid ass bullshit that one idiot wrote and got downvoted into literal Hell" link.

Please, give me that in Lemmy, instead of having to always look at the abysmal score at every comment.

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[-] hono4kami@pawb.social 10 points 1 week ago

I geniunely can't understand what you're trying to say

Perhaps the other reply was right--this comment is what he's talking about

[-] hono4kami@pawb.social 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Could be wrong, but possibly he's talking about this about "getting instant shit":

https://mas.to/@TechConnectify/112995177480955078

(look also at the reply)

[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 week ago

I've gotten an extremely similar comment on a couple posts I've made here on lemmy, in a video community no less.

Personally I just said something's like "welp, sorry that's not your preferred format." and then just move on.

With how infrequent posts like that are, they don't effect me at all, but It'd probably suck more if I was consistently getting negative comments like that,

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[-] AusatKeyboardPremi@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

With so many opportunities presented to it, Mastodon still hasn’t found its footing with the mainstream audience.

I think its users should accept the platform will remain a niche for the foreseeable future.

[-] ZoDoneRightNow 10 points 1 week ago

The amount of negativity on that thread alone is enough for me to realise that bluesky is not for me. I enjoy the positivity I find on the fedi and decided I wouldn't use a platform that algorithmically rewards negativity when I was harassed off facebook. I am glad that others are finding it nicer than twitter but for me it seems much the same but without Elon Musk

[-] farcaster@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I unfollowed Alec on Fedi because every other post would be him complaining about his interactions on there. Reply guys. Trolls. Lack of algorithms which raise some of the better comments out of the drek. Insufficient moderation. Etc. This got boring and depressing to read about honestly.

However I think he's totally right. Mastodon/Fedi works well for certain kinds of people. People with limited engagement, people posting mostly uncontroversial things, and perhaps people who just don't give a shit. But for high-visibility folks like Alec the old-school unfiltered discourse seems really uncomfortable.

It has little to do with federation itself, I think. But if Mastodon ever added the choice for users to enable "modern social media algorithms" for their view of their feed I suspect it would work a lot better for many people.

[-] sith@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

Mastodon simply is a different thing than X/Bluesky. It's more like RSS/Blog/IRC. It will never go mainstream unless they add (opt out) algorithms and a better search functionality. But maybe that's just not worth it. Mastodon has already lost to Bluesky when it comes to being an open mainstream Twitter replacement.

I'm curious about if it's even technically possible to build something federated that feels like a Twitter replacement, using the ActivityPub protocol.

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