The only reason it worked is because the Millitary backed off after Parliament overturned it, despite the Millitary blocking access to the building from Parliamentarians. The Millitary isn't bound by some electoral laws of the universe, they just as easily could have said the vote was illigetimate. This is a unique circumstance and cannot be used as universal.
The Millitary isn’t bound by some electoral laws of the universe, they just as easily could have said the vote was illigetimate.
Well I mean they are bound by laws, to the extent that laws have meaning. And responding to legal instruction would seem to validate the force and efficacy of the legal system, right?
Yes and no. Being bound by "legal" means is a pretense for civility, ie the social contract, but the millitary in no way must follow this. The Republic of Korea has had several millitary dictatorships, from Park Chung-hee to Chun Doo-Hwan, and to think any system is immune to such circumstances is false thinking.
Americans love fasicsm. That's why we voted for it. Despite the copious amount of warnings we received from the proto-fascist's ex-associates and top military personnel, not to mention unbelievably blatant examples from the proto-fascist himself.
Maybe we can have Nazi rallies at Madison Square Garden like we did in the 30s. We came pretty close a couple months ago.
huh, turns out a country built on a bed of indigenous genocide and chattel slavery isn't a great place after all 🤔 interesting 🤔
I've been saying this for years 🤣
Not all Americans
30%
It's not like Jan 6 2021 was a successful coup either tho?
Usually when you fail a coup you are dead, not re-elected.
Well, there was that one time in Munich back in 1923....
Kinda crazy that Hitler was put in jail for his coup attempt, while Trump evaded any and all consequences from his. Not that it stopped Hitler from rising to power...
But, while not directly comparable, it's in a way ironic that Hitler seemingly faced harsher consequences than Trump, even though Hitler's time in prison wasn't exactly tough for him.
Hitler also did not win a popular election to get elected, nor did the Nazi party win a majority of seats in Parliament. The liberals in power could have formed a coalition government with the communists but refused
What were their goals again? And did their goals get fulfilled?
Letting the morons being ridiculous, accomplish nothing and then slowly throwing all of them to jail, not to create martyrs, was actually the best move.
The best move was from the officer who shot one of those terrorists. It's been nothing but kid gloves prior or since.
Hearing Lemmy support a cop shooting someone is not what I was expecting today
oh yeah, it totally stopped trump gaining power.
The people didn’t hold President Yoon accountable. Parliament did.
We have the same system in the US. Congress holds the US President accountable the same way Parliament held Yoon accountable, with a vote.
The problem is that we voted in a fuckton of Trump loyalists as a nation, and it’ll be up to them to hold him accountable. We’ll get what we asked for.
The problem is, we voted in a fuckton of Trump loyalists as a nation, and it’ll be up to them to hold him accountable.
Yeah… that’s the uneducated citizens part dude…
Yeah… that’s the uneducated citizens part dude…
Yes and no. Yes, it is true that more uneducated people voted for Trump, and lack of education means people do not understand the risks and negative implications of voting for Trump over Harros for themselves. No, that argument doesn't explain the whole picture. It is also true that educated people who understand the implications voted for him anyway because they saw it as benefiting them/their worldviews. Keep in mind half of college educated male voters and over a third of college educated female voters went for Trump.
Just an aside here to say I appreciate your unwillingness to over simplify this discussion.
There’s no need to be condescending. Your meme implies that it was the people who stopped Yoon’s declaration of martial law. I was just clarifying.
Not my meme, and yes, did the people not vote in the people who stopped it…? That’s how its supposed to work dude lmfao.
My mistake, and yes, I’m fully aware of the democratic process. Are you aware that many of the people who voted for Trump are voting for a coup?
My point is that the US citizens that want to stop Trump are now powerless to do so, whether they voted and stumped for Harris, or have since changed their mind about Trump. Between SCOTUS’s ruling and Trump’s prior use of National Guard, there will be no safe way to protest.
Condescension in no way helps those who oppose Trump. Be constructive if you truly care.
They weren’t powerless dude, and it was the lack of education for the last century that lead to it.
You’re trying to blame something other than the problem dude, you don’t have a point here, you’re just bitching about what everyone already knows, but it apparently needs to be pointed out to Americans.
You’re preaching to the choir. Most of Lemmy is anti-Trump. Maybe they should post this somewhere where people haven’t spent the last eight months discussing ways to stop him.
We get it. We don’t want him either. There’s also no stopping a coup if that’s what he sets his sights on.
There’s also no stopping a coup if that’s what he sets his sights on.
Wait isn’t that why your citizens are armed? To stop this exact thing…?
Dude go bitch somewhere else lmfao. And again, not my meme you muppet.
Again with the condescension. You must have made a lot of friends with that winning personality.
Have a good day.
You are the one making the asinine claim that the citizens don’t have the power dude…
It’s funny how you’re insulting me and call out my personality you muppet lmfao.
And for the last fucking time, it’s not my fucking meme dude lmfao, seriously.
That’s how we’re told it’s supposed to work, but that’s not how it really works. BBC: [Princeton and Northwestern] Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy
The people didn’t hold President Yoon accountable. Parliament did.
How do you think representative government is supposed to work?
It’s the same in every bourgeois democracy: the representatives represent the capitalist class over the working class. BBC: [Princeton and Northwestern] Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy
Which is why I said "supposed to," not "in actuality."
representative government
supposed to work
Pick one.
Ha...ha?
If you ignore the 4 years that it wasn't a bunch of Trump loyalists that came before the vote.
Yeah, Americans reading this on lemmy! Why didn't you stop... something... from happening?? You definitely are the demographic who supports maga and also definitely have the ability to change the results of an election.
The right wing propaganda machine is too powerful. A close friend of mine works a trade and he's constantly being engaged with right wing talking points. He voted for Trump. He lives with another close friend who has a master's in history who constantly refutes all the talking points but I doesn't matter when all his coworkers, his social media and online media are riling him up with this shit.
At my job I've spoken to Hispanics, that can barely speak English, that are die-hard Trump fanatics. Feels like I'm taking crazy pills.
We’re too fat.
The American way is to bail them out financially, then re-elect them.
"Rest of the world"
In my limited knowledge, that only recently applies to Brazil. For South Korea, it's too early to know for sure how stuff will develop.
americans: "yeah so life sucks over here"
europeans: "lmfao rip bozo holy hell am i glad i'm not you"
I thought this was referring to the gifts the United Healthcare CEO got yesterday.
South Korean law is apparently very peculiar. Hard to directly transfer this lecture to other countries.
What's a battle?
Sometimes I hear Bs as Rs.
Ah you must have a cold.
