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[-] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

there are lots of good articles about this news from other sources.

unfortunately the link in this post is an advertorial for snakeoil: tuta published this for the sole purpose of marketing their non-interoperable encrypted email service which has an incoherent threat model.

[-] Potatofish@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago

And just like that another misinformation "news" site was blocked.

[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 1 points 14 minutes ago

This is a tech company blog, not a news website.

[-] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 24 points 13 hours ago

What worries me is who's gonna buy it

[-] MY_ANUS_IS_BLEEDING@lemm.ee 6 points 10 hours ago
[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 10 hours ago
[-] allywilson@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 hours ago
[-] Free_Thoughts@feddit.uk 11 points 13 hours ago

There's probably arguments to be made both for and against this ruling. I don't assume this is all good just because I don't like Google.

[-] plz1@lemmy.world 40 points 19 hours ago

Misleading headline. They have asked a court to force it, not triggered anything real, yet. Google will fight it hard because its one of their most powerful surveillance tools.

[-] itsnotits@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

because it's* one of

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 33 points 19 hours ago

People who think this is going to really cause a disruption really did not live through the past thirty years of US tech companies being told to break up only to reform again, only stronger.

Google also got fuck you money to make upset politicians to disappear.

[-] cron@feddit.org 97 points 22 hours ago

Is this case decided yet? If I understood the news correctly, they plan to force Google to sell its web browser.

[-] Mocheeze@lemmy.world 14 points 12 hours ago

This is just what the DoJ is asking for. Google will give their proposal in December. Then the judge will rule later in 2025. Then no matter what Google will appeal. Nothing is going to happen for years, if at all.

[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago

In Trump’s america google will have the easiest time getting what they want.

[-] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 44 points 22 hours ago

I don't think it is, the article doesn't say much beyond opinions. I also can't find any news talking about it being decided, just proposed.

[-] cron@feddit.org 20 points 22 hours ago

Thanks for checking. I didn't find any other recent news on this topic and the original article is from yesterday.

[-] underisk@lemmy.ml 8 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

why would anyone buy it when it's primary profit-generating activity is driving traffic to google

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 hours ago

There's a lot of reasons to own it, one potential profit source being selling what the default search engine is. Just because Google doesn't own it doesn't mean they won't pay to be the default search. They pay a lot for this on Firefox. (Yes, this is being looked into to and may stop, but they can still sell being an option for the default search engine, or other things.)

[-] itsnotits@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago
[-] Hupf@feddit.org 3 points 11 hours ago
[-] And009@reddthat.com 5 points 11 hours ago

Your left, my right?

[-] MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zip 20 points 20 hours ago

Mixed feelings on this.

I'm not entirely sure the internet landscape will change that much with google selling the browser side of their business and might only result in less funding and security for web browsers as a whole.

I say this as a Firefox user, fwiw. I honestly don't think people only use chrome because google products work better on chrome. Frankly, I've never had a problem with a google service on a firefox browser.

[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 5 points 17 hours ago

Yeah, for all people here complain about every web browser being chrome, the average web browser experience is so much better now than it was when Microsoft controlled the typical web browser.

Google is far from perfect, but the chromium project has resulted in a generally good browser. But I have serious doubts about the future of the chromium project in the hands of Meta or some other tech giant.

[-] AlternatePersonMan@lemmy.world 35 points 23 hours ago

Now name them sell YouTube... Or better yet, split it into multiple companies.

[-] Donkter@lemmy.world 28 points 20 hours ago

Oh God I don't want my YouTube hidden behind multiple paywalls of varying quality. I agree that something should be done about it but it's frankly a miracle of inertia that YouTube hasn't been more aggressively monetized.

And yes, before anyone comments with "have you seen YTs monetization???!!?!!!!", I do in fact mean even more than the shit show it currently is.

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 17 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

YT is the one I'm mixed on, on one hand, the ads are annoying AF if you're not premium and they're becoming more user hostile towards ad blocking every day

But on the other hand, hosting and providing bandwidth for video is not cheap. Hosting and providing bandwidth AND allowing users to upload whatever they want no matter the length (I think there's a limit of 10 hours, which is MORE than generous IMO) OR quality (seriously, who even has the setup to watch 8k videos lol) is REALLY NOT CHEAP

So who else other than Google can provide what YT provides at scale?

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago

YouTube also lost billions for years and years. Not certain they've turned an overall profit yet.

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 24 points 22 hours ago

To whom? Who will then fund Chromium? Also, what will happen to Firefox now Google can no longer fund 88% of Mozilla with their bribes?

[-] Damage@feddit.it 15 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

To whom?

Monkey paw says Oracle

Still better than Meta

[-] MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zip 7 points 20 hours ago

Monkey paw says Oracle

Still better than Meta

I'm not so sure about that one chief. I think they both suck pretty hard.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 5 points 19 hours ago

Don't you put that evil on us.

[-] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 4 points 20 hours ago

Bruh can't they make it ots own company and then sell shares? (Prefarably without a majority shareholder) >!Or be forced to make it a nonprofit but that's too utopian thinking!<

[-] cron@feddit.org 8 points 22 hours ago

Why shouldn't they be able to pay apple and mozilla to select google as their default search engine? Will this also be prohibited?

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

~~It's been ruled in court. More details~~

Edit: nope, sorry, thanks to @Mocheeze@lemmy.world for correction

[-] Mocheeze@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Only Google being a monopoly has been ruled. The remedy hasn't been decided. And your article is very out of date because the DoJ hadn't even made their proposal then. That only happened this week. Google will give their proposal in December. The decision from the judge comes later in 2025. Then Google will appeal anyway. None of this is going to happen any time soon, and very likely it won't at all given the chances coming to the presidency and their stance towards this sort of government action.

[-] Foni@lemm.ee 1 points 22 hours ago

The leading browser on the market? I don't know the price but I suppose any technology company with enough money. Regarding Chromium, it's another matter but I suppose that using it in so many browsers without development will not be

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 1 points 14 hours ago

any technology company with enough money

I know, that's the problem. They are all at least somewhat evil.

[-] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 10 points 20 hours ago

cool, now do youtube

[-] Undearius@lemmy.ca 8 points 23 hours ago

This post talks a lot about Google's search engine. I'm curious how all the issues that were brought up about the search engine will be improved with the browser being sold off.

[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 2 points 21 hours ago

Decisions by people who don't understand, advised by people who don't want them to understand, funded by people who are prepared to sacrifice a browser to appear like they're doing something.

[-] BetaDoggo_@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

If they sell the browser how will the buyer afford to continue development? We either get more intrusive ads, tracking, or both.

[-] lychee 6 points 23 hours ago

Wow. It's actually happening

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 23 hours ago

I am concerned about government overreach.

[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 1 points 12 minutes ago

Very true. If it could happen to Google, it could happen to any one of us.

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 42 points 22 hours ago

But not business monopolies?

[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 9 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Because this monopoly doesn't directly affect them in a way that's obvious to them; but gummnit baaaad.

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