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Summary

Passengers on an American Airlines flight from Milwaukee to Dallas-Fort Worth restrained a Canadian man with duct tape after he allegedly attempted to open a cabin door mid-flight, claiming he was the “captain” and needed to exit.

The man became aggressive, injuring a flight attendant as he rushed toward the door.

Several passengers, including Doug McCright and Charlie Boris, subdued him, using duct tape to secure his hands and ankles.

Authorities detained the man upon landing, and the incident remains under investigation.

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[-] whithom@discuss.online 13 points 3 hours ago

Toothbrush

Headphones

Neck pillow

DUCT TAPE.

[-] aTun@lemm.ee 9 points 4 hours ago

Why is duct tape easily available on the airplanes then normal rope to tie? Are the airplanes required to use the duct tape in an emergency case?

[-] modifier@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

2 things

  1. when it's an airplane we call it speed tape and its used all over the aircraft, mostly by maintenance, to keep the plane together. Don't worry about it.

  2. This probably wasn't duct tape anyway, but special tape for passenger restraint, similar to zip ties, that is stored on board for use in this type of situation

[-] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe 6 points 2 hours ago

Duct tape is used on airplanes all the time, so it's readily available & multi-purpose. While it looks super sketchy, it's actually pretty decent for a temporary fix until a proper repair can be implemented. Sometimes they're criticized for leaving the temporary duct tape fixes on far too long. 🙃🙃🙃🙃

It's 100% true. Nothin more permanent than a temporary fix

[-] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 hour ago

It makes sense because the tape is more versatile, and because practically nobody knows how to tie good knots.

[-] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 44 points 7 hours ago

The passenger was seen lying on his stomach with his hands behind his back bound as well as his ankles with duct tape, the report said.

So for future reference, especially for those of you who do such things recreationally, facedown restraint is very risky from a respiratory standpoint, especially with the limbs back in the hogtie position, that is how the cops kill people (I would say accidentally except they have enough education on the topic to preclude that). But ultimately I'm mostly just glad they kept him from opening the plane. That's the obvious first priority there. Damn.

[-] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 12 points 4 hours ago

But ultimately I'm mostly just glad they kept him from opening the plane. That's the obvious first priority there. Damn.

It’s physically impossible to open a door on an airplane during most stages of the flight. The door first needs to move inward before opening, and the pressure differential is absurd. The handle would break long before you’d open the door. The only time it’s really possible is near the ground as you’re coming in to land or taking off (which did happen recently).

[-] Carvex@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago

Opening the door during flight is attempted murder of everyone on board, fuck him. I hope it was hard to breathe the whole time and they put him in a nice padded cell for a while.

[-] orclev@lemmy.world 60 points 6 hours ago

Considering he was claiming to be the captain and trying to get off the plane it seems highly likely he was having some kind of mental breakdown. He needs proper medical care and a psychological evaluation, not summary execution. Yes he was a danger to himself and others, but that doesn't mean he's guilty of attempted murder. A padded room might be appropriate depending on the psych evaluation, but wishing suffering on him without knowing the full situation is too much.

[-] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 34 points 6 hours ago

Found the cop.

[-] FundMECFSResearch 23 points 6 hours ago

They probably were going through some kind of mania or hallucination episode.

Don’t always assume the worst in people, “eye for an eye” has never worked.

[-] we_avoid_temptation@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

"Eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" is the more accurate version I think

[-] FundMECFSResearch 5 points 5 hours ago

I like that saying, I’ll be reusing it.

[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago

I mean, it's an attempt, but it's in no way possible to actually do. That's thousands of pounds of pressure on that door. I'd bet on the handle breaking off before the door opens mid-flight.

In most airplanes, it's impossible to open the doors while the plane is in the air due to air pressure keeping them in place.

[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 1 points 6 hours ago

That’s not how plane doors work.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago

Yes it is. Unless they’re under like 5,000 feet there’s hundreds of pounds of pressure holding the door closed.

[-] noride@lemm.ee 13 points 6 hours ago

Just looked it up, it's over 20,000 lbs of force required to open the door when pressurized.

[-] elgordino@fedia.io 8 points 6 hours ago

It’s why plane doors open inwards before they open outwards. The air pressure means the door cannot possibly open inwards when at altitude.

[-] beefbot 2 points 1 hour ago

This is very calming to hear & I feel like it needs to be mentioned lots more when we hear about these incidents! no sarcasm, it’s honestly good to think it’s not so easy

[-] tquid@sh.itjust.works 23 points 6 hours ago

I understand the need to neutralize the threat but duct taping someone to Texas is just cruel

[-] Erasmus@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

Truly a punishment that doesn’t fit the crime.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 26 points 7 hours ago

Assuming it wasn't a Boeing, he wouldn't have been able to get the door open, so at least they weren't in any real danger.

[-] Im_old@lemmy.world 23 points 7 hours ago

Well, not from the door opening, you are right (pressure difference and such). But he already injured a flight attendant, so I guess he wasn't going to say "oh well it doesn't open, I tried, I'll sit down quietly now".

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 6 hours ago

I wasn't meaning to suggest that. Just that he wasn't endangering everyone on the plane.

[-] Im_old@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago

Well, not everyone at the same time, just one at a time! Lol

I understand what you mean, I'm just kidding.

[-] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 10 points 6 hours ago

Tbf, being with a violently aggressive person in a tight enclosed space is still risky regardless

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

I agree. I didn't mean to suggest that. I was just trying to say he couldn't have opened the door at altitude.

[-] krashmo@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

That's assuming Boeing parts work as intended which, putting it generously, seems to be less likely than it once was.

[-] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

Especially after the door fell out of that one plane.

[-] teft@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

That depends on where in the flight he tried to open the door. The article says mid flight but that could mean anything.

Above 10,000 ft he wouldn't be able to open the door because of the pressure difference but below that and he would have no problems since the cabin isn't pressurized and the doors aren't locked with any key or anything.

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 hours ago
[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago

If you are talking about this, the plane was landing. When it is at cruising altitude, cabin pressure makes that impossible.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-65705276

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 hours ago
[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

Oh! I see, thanks.

[-] Cap@kbin.melroy.org 8 points 6 hours ago

Something tells me he was not the captain. But I'll wait for all the facts to come out before I rush to judgement.

[-] ABCDE@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Duct taped to the whole of the state?

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