It's just a joke 🤣... he's got like 5 years of good cognitive abilities tops. Then after he'll be like all the other old farts. Barely makes any sense and is just totally old and dilapidated. No way they're gonna keep him in power then. He might just croak.
That's why Thiel made sure that J. D. Vance was his VP. Vance would inherit the dictatorship.
No doubt. Probably two years of trumpfus and two of JDv. The Simpsons predicted it. It shall be true.
I'm betting we get 2 years of Vance. Trump is circling the drain.
Yup. I bet that's gonna happen.
It’s not a joke! For heaven’s sake, media, it’s not a joke!
Exactly. And this isn't even the first time he's said it!
Cheeto ain't joking about power.
Brave of him to assume he'll still be alive by year four
George W. Bush made a joke about being a dictator, but never tried to actually be one. Trump has been trying to be a dictator from the moment he was born...
Let me get this right. So, you know exactly who this man is and what he stands for. Yet, you elect him anyway. You know he's been "joking" about this before. Yet, you elect him anyway. He's a convicted felon. Yet, you elect him anyway.
I've lost every smidgen of respect I had for Americans. You went into this with eyes wide open. You deserve what's coming.
You deserve what’s coming.
You're talking to the people who tried to stop him, so fuck off.
He's talking broadly, to Americans. Which you and I are. And he's right, we deserve this. As a country.
As an individual, neither of us do, since we fought and voted against him. But that's not what OP was saying. He wasn't addressing you specifically, but our nation in the second person.
nope, it's the usual European smug superiority complex I see all over Lemmy, as if they don't have the same problems there (not to mention have had in the past). They can enjoy gloating until the same thing happens in their country, which won't be long.
Canadian here and continue to be marvelled by an Americans inability to crawl out of their own ass regardless of if they're Democrat or Republican lol
You could be correct.
However, Europe's "right" is America's "left".
The political situation might be semantically similar, but the political policymaking is a vastly different situation between the two.
Europe, universally, believes in healthcare as a right, for example.
It struck me reading your comment that there is literally nothing that all Americans believe in "universally" and that makes me super sad.
I’ve lost every smidgen of respect I had for Americans.
Says the guy who is happy to damn tens of millions of people who didn't vote for this (not to mention all the kids and such) right along with those who did.
Hey, I'm in the US, I voted against Trump, I'm likely going to suffer if he is able to accomplish a smidgen of what he has talked about, and I think we got what we deserved. I know a lot of innocent people are going to suffer, but this is a country of very selfish people. Even some of the most liberal people I have met in this country still have a very selfish mindset and reason for the liberal bent. As soon as they attain a position where they have an advantage they basically pull up the ladder. I'm personally tired of it.
People are going to die, ecosystems are going to burn, countries may very well fall. My only hope is that things only get bad enough that the masses learn an important lesson that at least lasts for their generation and that recovery is possible in that time frame.
It's not that I don't care. It's not even that I don't have the fight left in me. I just don't see any kind of path to a better place without substantial harm occurring first. I will not be happy to be right. I want to be wrong.
Let me get this right. So, you know exactly who this man is and what he stands for. Yet, you elect him anyway. You know he's been "joking" about this before. Yet, you elect him anyway. He's a convicted felon. Yet, you elect him anyway.
I've lost every smidgen of respect I had for Americans. You went into this with eyes wide open. You deserve what's coming.
60% of eligible voters didn't vote. It can be debated if they are complacent or if party leadership didn't Sufficiently motivate them to vote
Of the 40% eligible voters that did vote, 50% voted for trump and 48% voted for Harris.
So depending on how you look at it, 19% of eligible voters actively didn't vote for Trump, or 20% of eligible voters actively voted for Trump.
We could also go on to say that, of those who voted for trump, there was a portion that was not informed which could partially be blamed on the media as well as party leaderships. Some of them are just in a cult mentality and while that doesn't excuse their behavior, they are actively being manipulated. And then there are a bunch of voters who genuinely just want to watch the world burn.
I'm sure we could dissect this many ways, but i can can't see how everyone deserves what's coming. For example , I didn't ask for this. I actively volunteered my time to try to prevent it. Yeah, a good chunk of Americans are idiots. But not all of us deserve what's coming. Fuck that.
Good thing he's old AF and overweight. Maybe that will impact him even before this term is done...
Yeah, President Vance? Every option has us screwed no matter how long Trump lasts
The one benefit of Vance replacing Trump is that he doesn't have a cult like Trump does.
I suspect (naively hope?) Vance would be less inclined to just hand over national security information to Putin, so .. maybe two benefits?
What about his behavior to date makes you think that? I feel like that sounds snarky but I don't intend it that way.
For all his faults and evils, Vance is not a narcissist who pathologically seeks the approval of those he sees as high status, which is what has compelled Trump to try so hard to be buddies with dictators. Vance is more cunning than Trump and would need to have a profit motive beyond just an ego stroking before putting his position at risk (even if the risk is evidently slight, but his relatively low popularity / lack of cult following makes me think/hope he'd have a harder time getting away with stuff than Trump). I suspect most dictators don't have much to offer Vance in the way of profit that he couldn't just as easily secure for himself as president without the personal risks of selling out the country to foreign adversaries, and the most salacious scandal we've heard about him has to do with a couch rather than Epstein so the kompromat is probably minimal or nil.
Don't get me wrong, a President Vance would be awful in a lot of ways, and arguably worse than Trump in some ways. It's just that I don't imagine him as being quite as much of a national security risk. But, again, maybe it's just naive hope. 🤷
That's just naieve hope. He would sell out his country for a bean.
I'd put down $50 on his administration taking measures to get Trump out of the way to install Vance.
Remember that he went off the rails on Truth Social about the 25th amendment basically ranting about the chain of command when the president is incapacitated. It seemed like a weird one but I remember reading it and my first thought was "He found out his people are gonna throw him out with a dementia diagnosis."
I don't see him lasting his full term. Dude's old, is incredibly unhealthy, and has enough power-mad people around him that the first sign of weakness will probably be enough for medical intervention and Vance becoming president. Becoming president AGAIN at his age is possibly the dumbest thing he can do for his health.
We all know assholes live forever
In b4
Sadly his Klan loving father lived to 93, and being POTUS is like having a dedicated one person ER following you around.
Also, the office only ages you if you're committed to performing the job, Trump uses the office to troll the people he can troll and, more urgently, personally profit for anyone that offers him or his businesses a bribe in exchange for a Presidential act. He doesn't work even in business, he issues broad, pie in the sky dictates and encourages his own employees infighting about the details. He's bragged about this.
Trump was the first President in my lifetime to accelerate the aging of those he governed rather than himself. Like so many other things people seem to forget, he spent a lot of his first term golfing.
Not that I'm complaining on that point, golf motherfucker! Do less!
This is something I don't think they even acknowledge or think about. Some of their shit in comparing him to Hitler (and they do that in a positive manner) is when they claim that some of the shit that is happening to him is like him being imprisoned after the Beer Hall Putsch (referring to Jan 6th). This is stupid. Hitler was barely in his early 30s at the time and he was actually at the START of his political career. Trump was never imprisoned and when he did his shit he already had very real political power that Hitler never had in 1923.
Trump the oldest presidential nominee ever and I hope that he will stay the oldest. We don't need that kind of geriatic shit in any political office anywhere.
Again, you mean.
Not really.. This time America voted for the felon to become a dictator
And the felon will do whatever he can to make it happen.
Last time it was still a misguided presidency.
I hear ya, but I mean he 'joked' about it before this election too.
Yup, specifically "You won't have to vote anymore."
Don't forget when he praised Xi Jinping for removing term limits and suggested he might do the same https://www.reuters.com/article/world/trump-praises-chinese-president-extending-tenure-for-life-idUSKCN1GG03P/
He's also just explicitly said that he wants to be a dictator, but that apparently isn't a turn-off for much of his base, and in fact many of them see it as a positive: https://apnews.com/article/trump-hannity-dictator-authoritarian-presidential-election-f27e7e9d7c13fabbe3ae7dd7f1235c72
Luckily, the process of repealing or changing an amendment likely won’t change anytime soon, even with a Republican trifecta at the federal level, as it requires overwhelming public support. As outlined in Article 5 of the Constitution, any such change requires at least two-thirds of the Senate and the House to agree on the modification, with that change then requiring ratification by a minimum of three-quarters of states in the nation.
I wouldn't be so confident. If the majority decides to ignore it, then a constitution suddenly holds very little weight. Remember how the Roman Empire was once a Republic, until someone decided it wasn't anymore? Remember how 1930s Germany was a democracy, until someone decided that had to end?
Trump might argue some weird logic regarding the 22nd and 12th amendment. Or he might just declare a state of national emergency because of a new migrant caravan or some such shit, and postpone elections indefinitely. If he tries anything of the sort, it will all come down to whose side the military is on.
What happens if they declare all democrats are enemies of the state and remove them from office and put their people in?
You mean the thing that they literally told us they were going to do?
They didn't actually mean that...
Wow, already in the first week. Expect to hear this joke periodically over the course of his term, each time getting slightly more seriously stated. By the third year, everyone will have heard it so much it'll be accepted as a perfectly reasonable idea. And the media will help that along in how they report on it. This is the tried and true playbook and it will work, not only for this plan but for their other plans.
Take for example the planned mass deportations. They'll start out with finding some people who have committed crimes (or they claim have), deport them and no one will object to that, it's already how it's done. As they move on to those whose crimes are not very consequential, like traffic tickets or whatever, if libs say anything against it, they'll pounce on it and amplify stories how the libs are overreacting and want criminals to be left free and have open borders. Harping on any criticism in cases that are technically justified is key to getting the public used to pooh-poohing any dissent as they start escalating and going after the law-abiding (other than being here illegally ofc) immigrants, families with mixed status members, DACA/Dreamers, parents of children born here and thus citizens and deporting the children with them, etc.
Remember, the Constitution is just a really old piece of paper if the people entrusted to enforce it choose to ignore it.
There is a non-zero chance that Trump could move to suspend the Constitution entirely, backed by a complicit Cabinet, Congress, Supreme Court and several state governments. And at that point, we would literally have to hope and pray that the rank-and-file military is on the side of the people, which is far, far from guaranteed. Because if they're not, you can claim your Constitutional rights all you want, but you'll be doing it with the other prisoners inside of whatever re-education camp you're assigned to.
Heck, there's a non-zero chance that the American voter just gives off a collective "meh" and just apathetically lets Trump seize total power. We just saw a few million people do just that.
He is 78, in awful health, and has no interest in a legacy or supporting a successor. He keeps everyone around him at odds and maintains enough infighting that no clear heir apparent could really show up.
So like, he really only will hold power long enough to make everything terrible. So we got that goin for us.
You know how long Caesar was dictator for life before he was assassinated? Less than a year.
But the damage was done, and Rome had a civil war over whether it would go back to being a Republic like it had been or if it would have an autocratic ruler. Obviously, the latter won out.
A lesson from history.
Forever could be thankfully short thanks to his awful health and lifestyle.
But then these damn Skeksis stay on the throne a lot longer than should be possible.
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