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[-] citrusface@lemmy.world 180 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Funny - it's the same for roughly 50% of Americans too - which is horrifying.

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Edit: sorry it was more than 50% of Americans. Fuck everyone. Goodbye.

[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 59 points 1 month ago

Even as someone who clashes with Lemmy.world users every post, I highly doubt Kamala doesn't have the vast majority of American support over Trump. It's that people don't vote

[-] leisesprecher@feddit.org 75 points 1 month ago

That doesn't change anything, tbh.

Apparently these people are at least complacent enough to let Trump become president. And that is horrifying.

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[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago

It's that people don't vote

Yes but also no: it's mostly that many people either CAN'T vote or can but only with extreme exercise of patience and stamina.

Get rid of all the ridiculous voter suppression obstacles and you'll see a dramatic uptick in voting and a corresponding shift towards Dems winning almost every election, making the GOP unviable within a decade.

Neither major party wants that, though, since the Dem leadership counts on running on fear of Republicans so that they won't have to go further left than the owner donors are comfortable with.

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[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 32 points 1 month ago

Plus the system is rigged to count rural (and thus usually more conservative) votes more, so sane people have to turn out in greater numbers to keep sociopaths out of the white house

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[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 month ago

People that don't bother to vote are as bad as Trump supporters. The true foundation of every autocratic regime is not fear, it's not their real supporters, it's people that don't care what happens as long as it's not happening to them (yet).

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[-] puchaczyk 108 points 1 month ago

Watching America edging fascism is my pastime in between watching my own country edging fascism.

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[-] BigBenis@lemmy.world 78 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

As an American:

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

inhales

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

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[-] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 71 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I will now cut back on all social media. Lemmy included as I get a depression from what's happening in the US. What is painfully obvious is that we Europeans must stop fucking around and federate so that we have a fucking chance wedged in between despots and idiots.

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[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 67 points 1 month ago

I'm really hoping Harris wins, and we can make politics boring again. I know that if Trump wins, we'll hear about all the insanity he will put in place for the next four years.

Sure, if he loses, Trump will cry foul, but that doesn't have the same legs as it would if he wins.

I just want Trump to be some washed out TV "celebrity" and politics to be as entertaining as it always is: not very.

I'm not American and all I hear about right now is American politics. Y'all need to figure your shit out.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 63 points 1 month ago

Trump is not the problem. Trump is the symptom. The problem is a somewhat powerful minority faction in the US actively pushing to dismantle our democracy. Project 2025 wasn't written by Trump and didn't write itself.

Harris' win is step 1. We then need to push to shore up our democracy and prevent a more cunning trump replacement.

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[-] Zementid@feddit.nl 23 points 1 month ago

If Trump wins, the world will become a way less hospitable place even faster. This is literally the fight for the last resources, and the 1% wants it all. Trump is a Billionaire enabler... nothing else.

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[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 63 points 1 month ago

The worst one for me is that there's some chode near me that displays a flag on his house fucking bragging that he's voting for a convicted felon.

They're proud of the fact that they're supporting a criminal, and I bet they'd be ok with him if he was an open Nazi as well (they're just fine with the same tactics and having literal Nazi flag wavers in their midst).

[-] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 63 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Adam Conover's last video changed my view on the shock. They're not voting for him despite his bad qualities. They're voting for him because of his bad qualities. Telling them he's a Nazi and a felon and blah blah blah will reinforce their idea that he's the right guy. When people who worked in his government come out against him, the response is, "Of course they did. They're part of the swamp we're trying to drain."

Reason is dead. We're never going to convince these people that Trump is unfit for the job and a horrible human being. It's time to stop being so shocked these people exist. They always have and will continue to exist. All we can do is show up and end the man's political career.

Post-election update: 14 million vote spread between Biden '20 and Harris '24. Trump was only down maybe 1½ million votes between '20 and '24. Hey Democrats, where the fuck were you on Tuesday?

[-] Zink@programming.dev 22 points 1 month ago

It’s all very Dunning-Kruger. A huge part of the crazy conservative personality seems to be thinking YOU are the smart one in a sea of sheep, and that everything is a conspiracy.

So when Trump is getting convicted, looking like an idiot, and has most of the civilized world against him? SO much evidence of the conspiracy and the system trying to save itself from the great disruptor! It’s like reality itself is bending over backwards to make the chosen one look like an irredeemable pile of shit!

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[-] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 50 points 1 month ago

Americans are also watching in horror FYI

[-] xenoclast@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago
[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 32 points 1 month ago

Apparently those Mussolini style of speeches and the other 50 or so political suicides did not really matter as much as you would think. No matter the outcome this being this close I think spells the end of the USA as a rational power.

[-] xenoclast@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

America really really hates women.

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[-] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 48 points 1 month ago

Watch the next Canadian election and be equally dumbfounded / terrified.

[-] Albbi@lemmy.ca 41 points 1 month ago

At least that election season won't last more than 7 weeks. Instead of this insane 2 year marathon the US has.

[-] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 month ago

Funny, I was watching tv and had a Canadian station on. Every other commercial break was a Pierre Putinfever ad.

In Canada, Elections campaigns can last a MAXIMUM of 50 days.

Somehow, in the past few years, the laws for campaign ads changed (thanks Crtc!) and they no longer fall into the category of a campaign.

And there are newish election laws that set out a 'pre campaign period' that allows further erosion of the campaign time limit restrictions.

That period - anytime after the last election.

Wtf.

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[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 46 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Don't forget the fake communists bragging that they won't support genocide and that's why they're not voting.

Hey, socialism angels: do you drive a car? Do you emit carbon dioxide that is projected to cause 1 billion deaths, mainly in poorer countries, by 2050? If so, why do you support genocide? You refuse to support genocide one day every 4 years, but actively participate the other 1460?

[-] volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 24 points 1 month ago

Yesterday's John Oliver introduced me to the concept of vote swapping and I am so pissed this wasn't pushed for third party/protest voters. Basically, if you live in a swing state and absolutely insist on not voting for the Dems, find someone in a blue state who planned on voting for Harris and let them do a protest vote on your behalf, while you vote for Harris on their behalf. Why didn't I hear about this earlier?! (I live in Germany tho, so maybe it is a thing?)

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[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 month ago

You_IRL

Did you know that with more representative voting systems, people would be free to vote for whomsoever they wish, secure in the knowledge their vote would still be casted against those they don't want in office?

I invite you to my asklemmy post to discuss your recent commitment to replacing First Past The Post voting in your state so people can vote freely.

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[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 45 points 1 month ago

With electoral reform, we could have more then two artificially limited options. We could have competition in our elections. We could be free...

[-] Shapillon@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago

But currently you aren't and the options are damage control or burning the house down...

  • A French person that was in a similar position a few monthes ago.
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[-] davel@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 month ago

We will never have election reform that represents the will of the people, because the capitalist class, which has run this country since its inception through bourgeois revolution, will never allow “tyranny of the majority” reforms. They would sooner unleash fascism upon us than allow real democracy.

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[-] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 43 points 1 month ago

This is so. fucked. up. I'm not American (and thank fuck for that), but I'm actually feeling so ill and worried for y'all. I think it's time for me to block/unfollow any American accounts and news cause shit's about to get really fucking bleak.

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[-] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago

The national identity of being Canadian over the last while has been every four years wondering if the downstairs neighbors are going to decide to restart up the meth lab they keep tinkering with and bracing for the sounds of domestic violence to resume.

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[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

His IQ is currently equal to his amount of felonies

Edit: The fact that this comment has exactly 37 upvotes makes it even funnier

[-] Zink@programming.dev 22 points 1 month ago

I’m just hoping this comment ages like milk as his convictions pile up with his other trials.

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[-] arc@lemm.ee 36 points 1 month ago

America is fucked. Ukraine is fucked. The world is fucked. The only glimmer of hope is Trump drops dead before his term is out.

[-] ziggurat@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

The issue is that the heritage foundation has put JD vanced to take over for Trump when he dies

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[-] lemmy_get_my_coat@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago

Let's not forget the two impeachments too

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[-] python@programming.dev 33 points 1 month ago

Genuine question, but why is Trump even allowed to run? I vaguely know that there are some restrictions on who can become President (you have to be a certain age and be born in the USA iirc), how can it be that "Hasn't been convicted for any crimes recently" isn't a requirement?

[-] lime@feddit.nu 37 points 1 month ago

because political dissidents who are in jail for trying to overthrow a dictatorship should also be able to run. it's one of those unfortunate situations where this would be a good thing to have under an authoritarian government...

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[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

He is literally barred from running by the Constitution because he committed an insurrection. Unfortunately the House, Senate, and Supreme Court are all somewhere between 50 and 67% Christofascist traitors.

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[-] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 31 points 1 month ago

Yeah its one thing if youre a trump supporter because then you are just a sheep but i actually dont understand whats going on in the head if those who have to think about the decision

[-] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 30 points 1 month ago

America wasn't built on just immigrants, it was built upon a certain type of immigrants: opportunists who placed greed above everything else. It shows.

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[-] MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago

Im more impressed than terrified. Choosing a guy who cheated on his wife instead of decrimanalised marijuana AND better healthcare. How???

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[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 26 points 1 month ago

As much as I'd like to make fun of the 'muricans, I'm well aware Brazil would totally do the same fucking thing with jair bolsonaro. Thankfully the fucker is ineligible for another 7 or so years, but his sons are still causing trouble.

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[-] lime@feddit.nu 26 points 1 month ago
[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

"But the felon promised me cheaper eggs."

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[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 25 points 1 month ago

For the third time in a row

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

The writers really know how to keep the audience biting their nails, this season

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