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[-] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 170 points 2 months ago

Oh fuck off. “Cosmos” was never meant to be an ongoing series. Sagan didn’t intend for it to be more than one season. And there were two follow- up seasons with Neil deGrasse Tyson later on.

Also, there are 51 (and counting) seasons of “NOVA.” Not all Americans are stupid.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 42 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

And yet this is the man who is a hair's breadth from the White House a second time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpdt7omPoa0

Edit: Because I'm enjoying the hate and I'm enjoying looking this stuff up, here's the last ignorant Americans fact until another person angrily suggests that Americans are so way into Carl Sagan stuff!

More than one in five (22%) of those taking the test said astronomy was “the study of how the positions of stars and planets can influence human behavior.” The answer they should have given was astrology.

https://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-science-quiz-americans-pew-20150909-story.html

While a growing share of U.S. adults are religiously unaffiliated, there is one belief that appears to unite a significant share of them: astrology. YouGov’s latest poll finds that a little more than one-quarter of Americans (27%) – including 37% of adults under 30 – say that they believe in astrology, or that the position of the stars and planets influences people’s lives. About half of Americans (51%) say they don't believe in astrology and 22% are unsure.

https://today.yougov.com/entertainment/articles/42292-one-four-americans-say-they-believe-astrology

51 percent of people in a new AP/GFK poll said they were "not too confident" or "not at all confident" that the statement "the universe began 13.8 billion years ago with a big bang" was correct.

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/04/a-majority-of-americans-question-the-science-of-the-big-bang/360976/

https://news.gallup.com/poll/21814/evolution-creationism-intelligent-design.aspx

[-] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago

Yet he’s never won the popular vote. The majority of Americans don’t like him. His backers are just good at manipulating the rubes and gaming the system.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

"Never won the popular vote" isn't saying much considering our low voter turnout.

Which is another thing which supports the idea that America is a pretty anti-intellectual country.

I'm not sure why you're trying to pretend otherwise.

Edit: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/nearly-7-in-10-u-s-adults-believe-in-angels-ap-norc-poll-finds

[-] ABCDE@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

It was the highest turnout last election, no?

Universities are not unpopular.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Universities are not unpopular because it's hard to get a decent-paying job without a degree unless you want to do something like be a plumber or electrician.

[-] ABCDE@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Give it a rest

[-] Aedis@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

You can throw statistics upon statistics and they will mean nothing without a comparison point, control group, or null hypothesis.

[-] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This isn't an "American" problem though

26% of Europeans believe astrology is "very scientific" with 43% believing it is at least somewhat so.

https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/08/raw-data-astrology-in-europe/

While there is no real data on the age of the universe things you can look up, searches by country for creationism, or skepticism of evolution, show western european countries to largely be 15-40% skeptical of evolution, and eastern europe is much higher on average, but also contains the lowest skepticism of it.

Search "skepticism of evolution in Europe by country" and you will get information - it took me several hours of reading, but it was all on that search

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[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 81 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

lots of sensitive fee fees in here LOL

ok, i'll join in: americans are stupid

and it's by design. remember when al franken asked betsy devos a simple question and it was made abundantly clear that she didn't know the first goddamn thing about education? but she bought her seat, so she became the secretary of education, saying we need guns in schools for "potential grizzlies." i'm not fucking making that up

not only do 1%ers (the people who are calling the shots on public education) not give a fuck about public education, but they actively despise it, as that is money going to poor people instead of themselves AND an educated populace is bad for the aristocracy. so yes, there is a MAJOR anti-intellectual bent to all of american culture thanks entirely to republicans from the top all the way down to the mayor level, and spoiler alert: it's not getting any better, since every attempt to improve education is blocked. by people who watch duck dynasty

edit: i need to add: to the people who insist on arguing against the painfully obviously hyperbolic statement "all americans are stupid" without taking 2 seconds to consider "maybe the core claim is that way too many americans are stupid, not literally every single american"-- you are reinforcing a side of the debate, just not the side you think you are

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago

edit: i need to add: to the people who insist on arguing against the painfully obviously hyperbolic statement "all americans are stupid" without taking 2 seconds to consider "maybe the core claim is that way too many americans are stupid, not literally every single american"-- you are reinforcing a side of the debate, just not the side you think you are

Hah! You claim to be against anti intellectualism yet you move your own goal posts when people prove you wrong via a counter example!?

spoiler/s /s /s

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

as that is money going to poor people instead of themselves

You need to look no further than the GOP obsession with cutting government programs to back this up. The "money going to" is in fact taxes and so if government programs are cut Republicans can also further reduce taxation on themselves and the ultra wealthy without hurting the deficit as much. They couldn't possibly care less about government assistance programs because they don't need them, it's just the "poors" that do and we all know the Republicans mindset on that: get good or die, loser. Let the church do charity, but don't "force me" to care about you.

[-] Makhno@lemmy.world 37 points 2 months ago
[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I would recommend a comma or period (or, arguably, a semicolon), an exclamation point and some capitalization.

Edit: Two exclamation points would also work. But not in a row.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

I think I'm just going to start posting facts about how anti-intellectual America is to enrage my fellow citizens on Lemmy.

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ukraine-crisis/wheres-ukraine-84-percent-americans-dont-know-survey-says-n84051

Quite a few thought it was Greenland though.

[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

wow that looks like a very wide normal distribution maybe a mixture with another smaller peak at middle east lol

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[-] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

As an American myself, your average Americans head would spind then explode due to extreme confusion 10 minutes into sagans show.

Duck dynasty However is, misogynistic, extreme evangelism, shoot em up guns, blownin up stuff, and incomprehensible hillbilly nonsense that your average American thinks they understand quite well. They don't know it's yet another propaganda enterprise made to make you think you know, ya know?

Anyways sorry for the rant I just really despise that whole family

[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Hell, how long have the Kardashians been on TV? Take a look at the show The Circle, where people with no discernible skills see who is best at social media. We've been deep in Idiocracy for quite a while. Oww! My Balls! is just over the horizon.

[-] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

What the fuck is the circle? Oww my balls suddenly sounds like an upgrade

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[-] Sarmyth@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

No shortage of documentaries or reality TV. We live in a land of plenty. What you watch is up to you though. They even remade cosmos in 2014, so there's interest there.

[-] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Reality TV shows sucks

[-] Hikermick@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm more concerned there are politicians who would defund PBS

[-] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They clarified the typo! Please ignore my confusion!

~~I'm out of the loop. What's wrong with PBS?~~

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 month ago

It's woke and therefore bad.

Have you seen it lately? Emo over there preaching love and playtime, instead of owning the libs and separating immigrant families.

[-] Hikermick@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

It's publicly funded and therefore bad in the eyes of conservatives.

[-] Hikermick@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Oops just realized auto correct changed defund to defend

[-] Atrichum@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Low effort edge lords. I hate low effort edge lords.

[-] prole 5 points 2 months ago

No it doesn't.

[-] Alk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

How is this political?

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

They'll get him back right after the woolly mammoth.

[-] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I liked Duck Dynasty and I'm from Europe .__. I think it run on Comedy Central overe here.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

A far more appropriate channel. Sadly, it is not intended to be a farce.

Edit: American ignorance update!

Disturbing Findings Reveal Significant Number Of Millennials and Gen Z Can’t Name A Single Concentration Camp Or Ghetto, Believe That Two Million Or Fewer Jews Were Killed And A Concerning Percentage Believe That Jews Caused The Holocaust

https://www.claimscon.org/millennial-study/

[-] Forester@yiffit.net 4 points 2 months ago

Proclaiming that Americans are retarded while also running around with shit streaming out of your pants isn't a very endearing argument. You're not wrong, but you're also not going to convince anyone your points have merit.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

I do not make ableist proclamations.

But I do proclaim that Americans are, in general, anti-intellectual.

You do not have to be bigoted to criticize me.

[-] Forester@yiffit.net 9 points 2 months ago

You're literally mocking people based on their perceived intelligence quotient but you get offended if I use a term like retarded. Gotcha. Seems just a bit hypocritical. You can try to fancy it up with ephemeral vocabulary all you want but at the end of the day you're mocking people for being less cognitively able. I'm just helping you see the paint that you laid down.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I have been discussing incuriosity and anti-intellectualism, neither of which have anything to do with intelligence.

You, however, are using a word that has been used to horrifically bully people with both intellectual and physical disabilities.

I'm sure this won't matter to you and you will continue to be ableist, but I'll leave it for others: https://www.specialolympics.org/stories/impact/why-the-r-word-is-the-r-slur

[-] Forester@yiffit.net 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

And there it is everyone he cares more about the label then purposely disparaging upwards of 50% of a country as mentally deficient and or incapable . Or perhaps I just lack the sufficient reading comprehension to extrapolate your multi-layered and nuanced themed assertions based on ill sourced polls that Americans are not intelligent because the ones sampled failed arbitrary litmus tests of knowledge. Woe is me because it's spread across multiple posts the true meaning of your tirade has been lost to me with my ADHD rattled autism spectrumd non-neurotypical brain. It's okay. You can spell it out for me. I've been told by many professionals that I am in fact retarded. Clutch your pearls harder sweetie. Take your Pharisee energy somewhere else.

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[-] yournamehere@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

what exactly did you like about it? havent seen more than bits really so it looks like some vietnam veterans doing cosplay and have a bird kink or sth.

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[-] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

ok but have you considered this: quack quack,,?

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