And many of the men who oppose abortions, are massive fucking hypocrits who will gladly have their mistress get an abortion somewhere else.

Almost as if claiming a simple statistic tells the whole story doesn't tell the whole story.

Idk how to respectfully say this, but you are being so vengeful toward religion that you forgot the intersectionality of gender and sex to that equation. This is not to invalidate your feelings, but that I find your statement invalidating a large part of this topic for no reason.

Those are different numbers, percentage of men who are against abortion and percentage of people against abortion who are men are not the same.

Thanks, the story she was telling was counter-intuitive and without source. Hence, doubt!

Ok, my first thought was "no way" but different areas of the country are different, so I was open to digging in. Looks like my gut was right, it's just more "alternative facts."

Yeah I kind of thought the statement was somehow obliquely anti-trans, but I didn't want to open that can of arsenic.

I wish it was that few, but sadly trans people can have some really atrocious politics too. I doubt they're a significant factor on this particular scenario, though.

trans men that are anti-abortion

Well, allow me to be inclusive and say that both cis- and trans men who oppose aborion deserve a very equal kick to the face.

there are a lot of women in jeebus camp who've been indoctrinated since birth to do what they're told by men. they argue that it frees them of the 'burden' of thinking for themselves and making their own decisions. because the belief that those things are too much work for a woman is part of the indoctrination

Rich people know that they are exempt to most rules and sometimes they just want to impose them on others.

It's not saying that 79% of men are abortion opponents.

It's saying that 79% of abortion opponents are men.

Those two statements are very different.

Here's a pew research thing finding about 61% of men supporting abortion in the US in 2024; lagging behind women at 64% but not by much

They can be murdered though, unlike being pregnant, which I think is the point. The wording should better reflect that.

Wouldn't 99% of people who are opposed to murder will never be a murderer the more reflective statement here?

Also pro-choice.

because at the time of abortion the body is increasing hormone production and then it's tough on the woman emotionally when the fetus is removed

I applaud you changing your mind in face of new information, I just kind of want to nitpick that being forced to carry a pregnancy that you don't want to term is also going to be extremely physically and emotionally tough.

I’m curious, is there ANY evidence of ‘abortion as contraceptive’ happening?

It's not even religious. Their religion says all kinds of really important shit that they completely ignore. They just pick this one specific issue because they hate women and it's a lot easier to say "Uhhhh it's because of my religion, you're discriminating against me!" than it is to say "I hate women and want them to suffer".

Men can get pregnant.