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Meme: Screenshot of microblog post by @alanjack replying to @fotchi.

Caption: I still don't know why part of autistic/adhd diagnosis isn't putting you in a room with someone already diagnosed and seeing how quickly you bond.

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[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Try diagnosing sex addiction with how well the addict clicks with others.

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 39 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Drag knows lots of people with autism who are absolute assholes and drag doesn't get along with them at all. So this test wouldn't work reliably.

Ever seen Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs? Flint Lockwood and his dad both have big time autism, and precisely opposite mannerisms and special interests. They don't understand each other at all and it takes a lot of effort for them to get along.

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 hours ago

Solid take Drag, couldn't agree more

[-] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Yeah, me, my dad, and his dad all surely have it, undiagnosed. None of us get along. Dad and I are trying to work through it, but the man is stubborn and firmly believes I'm a prodigal son.

[-] gwen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 7 hours ago

always cool to see a drag comment :]

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 hour ago

Awww, thanks

[-] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 2 points 8 hours ago

Eyy, we meet again! I suppose it could help for a portion of autistic people

[-] Jasonw911@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago

Drag, may i ask you why you refer to drag in such a way? What would in most cases refered to as "third-person"? I'm genuinely curious.

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 9 points 12 hours ago

Drag uses person-independent drag/dragself pronouns. They're inflected and conjugated the same way in first, second, and third person. They reflect drag's identity as a dragon rider.

[-] Jasonw911@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

Ok, i can dig that. So which one is your favorite dragon?

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 12 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Drag's favourite dragon is @HonouraryDragon@lemmy.nz. We're dating. Drag also likes Saphira and Mushu, and thinks Smaug is hot. Drag doesn't like Toothless because he abandoned his bro.

[-] Jasonw911@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago

I like you, drag. Don't let anyone give you shit.

[-] loonsun@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

Protect Drag at all cost

[-] And009@reddthat.com 1 points 13 hours ago

It's a drag

[-] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 4 points 13 hours ago

i agree, this method would never work. There are plenty of pairs of enemies that are both on the spectrum. My bully in high school had ADHD, just like me.

[-] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago

I find it real easy to detect ADHD in people but that doesn't automatically make me want to be friends with them. We're people like everyone else at the end of the day. Some nice, some not so much.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 12 points 16 hours ago

Wouldn't work, I bond very slowly, due to long time isolation. Psychotherapy is not an option, due to it being defunded in my home country at an even greater scale than other parts of health care, because juST gO To ChuRcH anD PrAY.

[-] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 5 points 8 hours ago

I'm sorry to read that.

You're not wrong, a lot of people who are neurodivergent are mistreated in similar ways. That can lead to anxiety, trauma, habits, etc. All of those can make diagnosis more difficult

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 118 points 1 day ago

To be double sure, do the test once, then separate the people for three months, then reintroduce them and see if they just resume their conversation.

[-] Vilian@lemmy.ca 1 points 36 minutes ago

So any normal male friendship?

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 minutes ago

I have a girlfriend who I reconnect perfectly with and we rarely speak more than once a year but it's always awesome.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 77 points 22 hours ago

"As i was saying before i was so rudely interrupted 14 years ago.."

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ken_Livingstone#2000

[-] puppycat 6 points 14 hours ago

Everyone is bisexual. Almost everyone has the sexual potential for anything.

Speech to Harrow Gay Unity Group (18 August 1981).

(totally irrelevant but thats freaking great)

[-] flicker@lemmy.world 28 points 22 hours ago

...this got so personal so quickly.

[-] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 13 points 20 hours ago

That describes every lasting relationship of my life starting with my best friend from first grade and ending with my best friend from the Navy. I think I've only had a single conversation with my best friend from first grade. It's not finished until one of us dies.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 58 points 22 hours ago

similarily if you pop 200mg of caffeine and fall asleep that might be a slight indication that you have adhd

[-] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 18 points 19 hours ago

Just sounds like caffeine addiction. I used to be able to drinks pot of coffee and then go to sleep. Then health issues caused me to give up all caffeine for several years and now if I have half a cup im wired for hours...

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 hours ago

i don't mean "being able to fall asleep", i mean that caffeine actively makes you tired, because that's how stimulants work for most ADHD people: rather than actually stimulate, it brings you back to base level and thus lets you be tired.

[-] DillyDaily@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

When you gave up caffeine did you experience rebound insomnia?

I gave up caffeine a month ago on my neurologists orders and it's been easy, no obvious withdrawal symptoms, no cravings, I just replaced all my tea and coffee and redbull with herbal tea and lemonade.

But I have not gotten more than 3 hours of consecutive sleep in this month, and I'm missing the relaxation and quiet that a refreshing 9pm redbull used to offer, I've got plenty of other relaxing rituals, but none so easy as just drinking coffee.

I started drinking coffee at 15 and religiously relishing redbulls at 21. Now in my 30s, this is the first time I've had true insomnia symptoms.

My mother has been an insomniac her whole life, my dad is narcoleptic, I was previously diagnosed with N24CRD and my brother has DSPS, so I come from a family of fucked up sleepers, but this is a new symptom set for me and it appears directly related to giving up caffeine.

I'm hoping it's just an adjustment period and my brain will sort itself out and get some sleep soon.

True, but I never drink coffee and could drink one right now and go sleep. The same when I was prescribed methylphenidate, straight to sleep. A non ADHD brain would be going 100mph.

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[-] Aeri@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago

I know some people are "caffeine addicted" but I genuinely don't know how the fuck people do it.

I drink a cup of coffee a day, 16oz, sometimes there's also an energy drink in the mix, on some really serious days I have a headache or migraine and an Excedrin adds a little more in the mix.

One day I made a full pot of coffee and decided to attempt to consume the entire thing over the course of the day. I felt like my heart was trying to escape from my chest and that I was soon going to die.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

see this is the thing: i can take a 200mg caffeine pill in the middle of the day and forget i've done so, it has basically no effect whatsoever, neither positive nor negative.
The only actual reliable effect caffeine has on me is enabling me to get out of bed before noon, so that's the only thing i use it for.

[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 6 points 15 hours ago

An 8oz cup of coffee only has like 75-100mg of caffeine in it. With your 16oz cup plus an energy drink plus an Excedrin, that would be like ~400-500mg of caffeine. Assuming a typical drip coffee maker that can make 12 cups, you're looking at a total of like ~1000-1200mg of caffeine, double or triple your estimated daily amount. So it's kinda no wonder you felt wired that day. Extreme, sudden spikes in your stimulant intake will do that.

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[-] KomfortablesKissen@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 21 hours ago

That's me in my normal rhythm of substance abuse with caffeine.

It might be that.

Then again, the funny thing about caffeine is that I can go without some for weeks as long as I'm not expected to work. Longest I've gone without was a 12 week, almost 3 month streak. The coffee I had in my kitchen went bad.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 hours ago

i geniunely don't understand why so many people immediately jump to it sounding like addiction, since when does caffeine addiction make it so taking caffeine makes you tired? Surely the symptom of caffeine addiction (or withdrawal, rather) is that not getting caffeine makes you tired?

[-] DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca 15 points 19 hours ago

Being able to forget you are addicted to something is also an ADHD trait.

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[-] PurplebeanZ@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago

Huh, that actually checks out

[-] Firebirdie713 50 points 1 day ago

Ironically, this is how I found out.

I had four different people with ASD, including one person I met for the first time, tell me that I should get myself checked. One was after I had a several hour long convo with someone who could only normally talk with neurotypical people for about 30 minutes before it became a strain. He was shocked that I wasn't diagnosed and recommended I get checked.

Now the only reason I don't have a diagnosis is because the evaluator didn't understand how the criteria worked. Still debating whether to try again for a diagnosis or not.

[-] i_dont_want_to 22 points 23 hours ago

Same. For years I wondered why I tended to gravitate towards people with autism or ADHD.

I don't have a formal diagnosis for ASD, but my current provider is very sure I have it. (She says I can get a formal dx, but it will cost a lot and will not really add any value to my life. This is my own situation, it may vary for other people.)

I suppose it depends what you want out of a diagnosis. I pursued getting evaluated for ADHD because I can pursue treatment with a diagnosis that isn't available to me otherwise.

Either way, good luck to you!

[-] sunflowercowboy@feddit.org 18 points 23 hours ago

Childhood trauma can cause the same symptoms as autism but that usually gets worked out through therapy and some mood boosters.

Guess how I found out :)

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Welcome to the club!

What's mood boosters?

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