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Musk announced the $1 million giveaway at an event in Harrisburg, Pa., on Saturday. The event was part of a tour supporting Trump.

“I have a surprise for you," Musk said shortly before bringing out a giant check. "We are going to be awarding $1 million to people who have signed the petition — every day, from now until the election.”

"If you look at the conditions, you must be a registered voter," Hasen said. "And so this is essentially a lottery that's open only to people who register to vote. So it’s either an incentive for someone to vote or it’s a reward. And either way, it violates federal law."

He calls Musk's actions "clearly illegal" because it violates statute 52 U.S.C. 10307(c) and the Department of Justice’s election manual.

Hasen said willful violation of statute 52 U.S.C. 10307(c) comes with a $10,000 fine and up to five years in prison.

"I don't think it would be likely that he would suffer such a serious fine," Hasen said of Musk. "Although, if he was warned that this is illegal activity and continued to do it, I think that would create a different kind of situation."

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[-] Midnitte@beehaw.org 23 points 1 month ago

Hasen said willful violation of statute 52 U.S.C. 10307(c) comes with a $10,000 fine and up to five years in prison.

Please, stop, I cant only get so erect.

[-] dandelion 14 points 1 month ago

"I don't think it would be likely that he would suffer such a serious fine," Hasen said of Musk. "Although, if he was warned that this is illegal activity and continued to do it, I think that would create a different kind of situation."

[-] Arkham@beehaw.org 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Musk: violates a federal law by giving away a cool million every day until election day

Feds: "let's fine that guy $10,000, that seems like a pretty serious amount for a fine"

[-] dandelion 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

If the consequence of violating a law is a fine, that law is essentially optional for the rich; if the consequences of violating a law is prison time, but the penalties can be avoided through (expensive) legal protection, those laws are also optional for the rich. The rich are hard to prosecute under the law, so it's not surprising when the law is primarily enforced on the rest of us (esp. on the most vulnerable of us).

An easy example: the IRS audits the poor much more than the wealthy, partially because their attempts to target the wealthy was met with legal difficulties.

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 6 points 1 month ago

So...he's been officially warned to stop, right?

[-] dandelion 1 points 3 weeks ago

Looks like the DOJ did send a letter:

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/elon-musk-doj-letter-paying-people-to-vote-is-a-crime

In a letter sent days after he announced the sweepstakes, Robert Heberle, the head of the DOJ’s election crimes branch, told Musk that offering anything of monetary value to influence voters violates federal law. ... The letter reportedly “did not specify any immediate legal action” but “did spell out the penalties for breaking US voting laws, including possible imprisonment of up to five years.”

[-] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 month ago

$10,000 is worth the publicity, they'll spend more than that on lawyers avoiding the 5 years.

I hate that justice has a paywall

[-] dandelion 4 points 1 month ago

"I don't think it would be likely that he would suffer such a serious fine," Hasen said of Musk. "Although, if he was warned that this is illegal activity and continued to do it, I think that would create a different kind of situation."

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