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[-] Gork@lemm.ee 102 points 1 year ago

What Futurama level bureaucrat do I need to be to get assigned this post?

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 93 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Scientists in 1985: "This data can now all fit on a computer thanks to CDs. Get a few of them pressed at Gramozávody Loděnice every year and keep the index plus updates on a HDD or tape."

Scientists in 1990: "With CD-R, you don't have to pay a fortune to have a few copies of the database pressed every year. You don't need the magnetic storage buffer either, updates can be written on the disks."

Scientists in 2000: "Screw CDs. Many-gigabyte HDDs are decently cheap. You can store full scans rather than transcripts."

Scientists in 2010: "You can afford terabytes in SSDs now, and keep a few copies off-site for backup, all in a cloud solution with access from anywhere with less latency than the HDDs."

Central Social Insurance Institute Card File in Prague-Smíchov in 2013:
Gonna pretend I didn't hear that

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

No shit? I always wondered where Futurama got the floating buerocrats from.

[-] ghen@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm glad they kept the cabinets grey

[-] ramble81@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

Don’t see an easy way of walking around those counterweights as it looks pretty tight or you get smacked in the chin as he suddenly rockets up

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Watch on YouTube
Here's a video of them in action - you can see the Nazis tried to create popular high-budget movies despite the war costs. They weren't very fast even back in the day and now that they are only used for historical records, they probably go even slower. I'm pretty sure their usage is very restricted and still they likely needed an exception from the European equivalent of OSHA.

[-] sxan@midwest.social 54 points 1 year ago

Part of me wistfully mourns for the loss of edifices like this, caused by computers. Another part recognizes that those guys would probably have given their left nut to get out of those desks and in front of a computer.

[-] motor_spirit@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

I'm sitting here wondering what modern safety programs would find wrong with the processes involved here. Looks amazing though.

[-] xpinchx@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

The obvious one is an enclosure or latches door to prevent accidental falls. They might be wearing fall protection that we can't see but I doubt it.

There's a good chance nobody ever fell from one of these but those regulations exist for a reason.

Maybe less obvious is fail-safes for any elevator system so if the brakes fail it doesn't freefall into the ground.

[-] plactagonic@sopuli.xyz 52 points 1 year ago

It is still in use. I had to revisit this video where you can see it. (It has eng subtitles)

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Amazing. They say the records are digitized but they still use the paper version as the authority for court cases and things like that. That's amazing because the rest of the world is rushing to jettison the idea of paper as authority and everyone accepts easily faked electronic documents.

[-] cadekat@pawb.social 26 points 1 year ago

Cryptography and PKI makes it pretty feasible to authenticate digital documents.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

When used completely and properly. Which rarely, if ever, happens because it requires end-users to know how to use keys and keep them offline somehow.

[-] turmacar@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This system hasn't lasted ~90 years because they just throw someone in a chair and let them figure it out on the job.

Any reliable system, electro-mechanical or digital, needs thorough user training and checks.

The worry with this one is it's a single authoritative record with no easy way to backup or replicate it. They say there are non-authoritative (at least legally) digital versions of most(?) of the records. I hope/assume they're actually more consistent with that than the video makes it seem because those are the only feasible off-site backups they really have. If not one fire is all it would take to wipe out an entire countries SSA program.

[-] cadekat@pawb.social 4 points 1 year ago

This is a government office. A government should be able to build the technical knowledge required to keep a private signing key secure.

I do agree that individual-to-individual cryptography is more difficult, but how often do you need to check the authenticity of a document from a friend or acquaintance, digital or otherwise?

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[-] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Because paper and ink are impossible to Forge...

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[-] psmgx@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago
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[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 13 points 1 year ago

Hey! Prague was one of the last cities ever to operate a public pneumatic mail system (until 2002).

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[-] CptEnder@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Damn what a brilliant film

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[-] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 year ago

That looks kinda dope ngl.
I'd be a 1937 file clerk

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 22 points 1 year ago

You're gonna have a real blast in 5 years

[-] Klear@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago
[-] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

alright, I'll bite, what do you mean.

[-] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He's just saying it'll be great when there's some management changes and you'll get promoted to chief Jewish inspector ... That is if you know German and aren't Jewish yourself.

[-] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

im so austrian i forgot ww2 existed for a second

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Well you guys technically didnt exist during the war itself so fair enough.

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[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago

1942 is the middle of WW2. 1937 in Central Europe is not somewhere i want live, because things are about to go sideways.

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[-] ironsoap@lemmy.one 35 points 1 year ago

“The offices of the Central Social Institution of Prague, Czechoslovakia with the largest vertical letter file in the world. Consisting of cabinets arranged from floor to ceiling tiers covering over 4000 square feet containing over 3000 drawers 10 feet long. It has electric operated elevator desks which rise, fall and move left or right at the push of a button. to stop just before drawer desired. The drawers also open and close electronically. Thus work which formerly taxed 400 workers is now done by 20 with a minimum of effort.

Source

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

^DAMNIT^ ^KEVIN^ ^STOP^ ^LEAVING^ ^THE^ ^FUCKING^ ^DRAWERS^ ^OPEN^

[-] Moah 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I can see how that'd inspire Kafka

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Made in 1936 and Kafka died in 1924. He would probably have died in a concentration camp if he lived to see this. Nazis did not give special treatment to Jewish writers, for example Josef Čapek (✝ approx. 14 April 1945 Bergen-Belsen). Still, there must have been other bizarre filing systems in his era, a multi-story vertical conveyor belt of filing cabinets is used in some town halls to this day.

[-] Amputret@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

🎵They say the world looks down on the bureaucrats,
They say we’re anal, compulsive, and weird,
But when push comes to shove,
You’ve got to do what you love,
Even if it’s not a good idea!🎵

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Workers of the Adeptus Administratum. Terra, 937.M1

[-] blibla@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 year ago

wes Anderson, is all I'm saying

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[-] TheLastOfHisName@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What Terry Gilliam movie is this from?

[-] xia@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 year ago

This must unironically be the first "big data", where it is cheaper to move the computation than the data.

[-] foggianism@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

The guys got replaced by a needle

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