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submitted 22 hours ago by Pyflixia@kbin.melroy.org to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

I know and can accept the response that say I should register to X site if I want more activity. I do plan to, least with Reddit, just biding some time before I make yet the 20th disposable e-mail and probably the 100th account before it gets banned again if I cross a glass person. Glass person being someone who's so fragile on opinions and things that they'll scream 'BAN THEM BAN THEM!'.

I've been on KBin Social, Lemmy World (least 2 dedicated accounts), KBin Run, Mastodon, Blue Sky .etc

And I'd stay for a good while but I also found myself bored immediately. I check for questions to answer, it's the same questions I've seen days and weeks prior. I check around for things that are reported and they'll be hours old and some of them can be years old.

I love the idea of the Fediverse, I like some of the features that are implemented. Especially when you do ask questions on here and you're allowed to expand on it. Unlike AskReddit for example, they don't really like that and will remove your post because explaining what your question is about and backing it with an example is just unacceptable to them.

I don't know. 43,000+ people sounds a lot on paper, but in practice, it feels like you're dealing with 50 people at any given day.

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[-] matengor@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 hour ago

Yes, I wish there would be more. But I am okay with the state it's in. The engagement is good enough, and I discover interesting things every other day. You can't force it anyway.

[-] ChuckEffingNorris@lemmy.ml 2 points 20 minutes ago

When I used to have Reddit on my phone, I'd look at it as soon as I woke up. There was new content constantly throughout the day so I kept coming back.

Lemmy doesn't have the content churn, so I can genuinely just look once a day and spend an hour or so catching up. No FOMO! I much prefer it.

However I do miss some of the niche subreddits that got reasonable activity on Reddit and absolutely zero activity here. They were my favourite part of Reddit.

I'd take more activity in those niche places, but I don't miss the addiction I had.

Spez let me go cold turkey for a while. Thanks (fuck) Spez.

[-] GeneralInterest@lemmy.world 1 points 12 minutes ago

Niche subreddits can have good content, and also I find myself looking at Reddit threads that come up in web searches, like if I search for a tech problem I'm having. But yes, the behaviour of Reddit as a profit-hungry corporation makes me want to not use Reddit or see their ads.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago

I like it. There is good engagement. 10 to 20 comments on a post is enough for me to move on to the next post

[-] GeneralInterest@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

Lemmy seems to have quite a lot of people to be fair. Apparently Lemmy.world has nearly 7,000 users a day, which is quite a lot when you think about it.

One thing I think about is that maybe there are drawbacks to the Reddit-style format of Lemmy. A cool thing about old internet forums is that posts were show in chronological order with no upvotes, which is more similar to a real world conversation. You'd read the most recent posts, rather than the most upvoted posts. This means somebody new to the conversation can have their opinion seen.

The upvoting system means that a small number of posts get nearly all the upvotes and attention, and people who post later have their posts largely ignored.

Maybe I'm wrong but it's just something I thought about.

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 2 points 1 hour ago

"New comments" allows to see the latest comments in conversations. Which is why I'm replying to you, while there are already 97 other comments here.

[-] GeneralInterest@lemmy.world 1 points 16 minutes ago

Sure that is true. Thank you for looking at my post and replying to it by the way. But I was just thinking how some people might just look at the top comments and nothing else. Maybe the upvote system does have some benefits though, like making bad posts less visible.

[-] spiritsong@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I personally think maybe it's also in need of quality posts or engagement, but in larger quantities.

That said I know my post may not be quality input, but this is how I feel.

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 1 points 1 hour ago

Feel free to have a look at !newcommunities@lemmy.world to discover other active communities

[-] ApollosArrow@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago

Maybe less content good? Infinitely scrolling is not great, and we all know that. Having limited content on Lemmy at allows me to at least move onto something else.

[-] nitefox@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 hours ago

Yeah but also the content is quite repetitive imo

[-] superkret@feddit.org 30 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I just wish it had more diversity.
Everyone's a white 40-year-old born male Linux admin in here.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 1 hour ago

Hey! I'm 32.

[-] Walk_blesseD 3 points 2 hours ago

Who tf is born 40 years old???

[-] RoquetteQueen@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 hours ago

I'm a 40-year-old white man? I had no idea

[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Sorry you had to find out this way

[-] superkret@feddit.org 3 points 5 hours ago

Welcome! Here's your complimentary Thinkpad and cat.

[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Congratulations. But being in your 20s is better. At least you get to be white I guess.

[-] Kit 5 points 9 hours ago

There's plenty of diversity if you join boards focused on them, like LGBTQ communities. I think the defaults just lean excessively into the demographic you described.

[-] Pyflixia@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 11 hours ago

It does. You aren't looking. I always feel a sense that I am talking to people from other parts of the world. Moreso than anywhere's else.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 hours ago

.world is no different than reddit so you shouldn't expect any improvement there.

for me the lemmyverse is better so far than reddit, x, or facebooks but that's because i spend most of mt time away from the diet reddit lemmyverse instances; maybe that'll work for you too.

[-] beliquititious 3 points 7 hours ago

Yes, but also no.

More users would be great for the fediverse, in theory. Right now Lemmy (and Mastodon) can attribute a lot of their users to people unhappy with Reddit Inc. (or X) in some way. Throwing more unhappy people into the user base would probably not lead to good outcomes.

Personally I think Lemmy and Mastodon will never get the critical mass of users needed to maintain healthy communities because the only thing they have to offer is a less bad clone of an existing network.

X is bad because a malignant political demagogue is actively destroying what most people liked about Twitter. Reddit is bad because reddit inc. cares more about profit more than the needs of the user base. But the platforms they created and/or operate aren't designed with a federated model in mind.

If the fediverse is ever going to move out of the technically savvy, early adopter nerds phase I think it's only going to do that through something new and better than what already exists.

[-] LiamMayfair@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 13 hours ago

For me the biggest problem is not volume in general but volume of niche content. The best thing about Reddit was all the active, engaging communities that would sprawl around any niche subject you could imagine.

[-] Pyflixia@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 13 hours ago

You know, you actually hit the nail on the head in the context I had failed to articulate. Like yes the Fediverse does have some interesting communities, but they're communities we expect of the fediverse to have that everyone else has. But, it does not have a dedicated Nostalgia community, it does not have AbruptChaos or anything else. Just the basics.

And I think if more people took on tasks like running the communities while educating people the benefits of the fediverse, then we can see a bit more growth. Because the point of the matter is if people are desperate for a Reddit alternative, they're going to want to feel like they're home. If there's nothing here that's going to help make them feel that, then they're going to just stick to Reddit for better or worse.

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 4 points 12 hours ago

But, it does not have a dedicated Nostalgia community, it does not have AbruptChaos or anything else. Just the basics.

There's only so many communities you can maintain active with 45k monthly active users

And I think if more people took on tasks like running the communities while educating people the benefits of the fediverse, then we can see a bit more growth.

Why do you think we don't?

[-] Routhinator@startrek.website 2 points 9 hours ago

Speaking personally, while I am here, my participation in Lemmy is lacklustre at best; same with Mastodon. I got burnt out from social media and the years from 2016 - 2024 have really ruined my enthusiasm. I think maybe a lot are in the same boat. Maybe we'll see more people come out of the "shields up, dark times overload" in a year or so... and maybe it will take longer.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 12 points 14 hours ago

Use the site less frequently and you will discover more content each time you come. I kind of like how it moves slower.

Of course, I want the fediverse to grow to. If it ever moves to fast I can always block lemmy.world and be crazy with my fellow dorks on lemmy.ml

[-] NicolaHaskell@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

So You Thought You Were Lying Low in a Space Forged by an Exodus from Society to Bury your Shoebox of Fake IDs but Nuance Defied Expectation, a Stone's Tale

[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 77 points 22 hours ago

For more diverse content I indeed wish, but you can't build a healthy social network with an explosion of members without the moderation and toolings required to handle such a wave.

I'd rather be there while the Fediverse grows organically and gather my info from multiple sources the old fashioned way.

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[-] pseudo@jlai.lu 6 points 14 hours ago

I wish there was more people on not-so-general communities.
If this means less meme or political posts, it would be for the best. However, more specific communities that are not part of a themed instance have very little activity. If I want to learn about ecology and its science, I know I can find many active communities on slrpnk.net, if I want content that matter to Germans, I can go it feddit.org, jlai.lu the same for Frenchs. But if I want people posting picture of nice looking sticks or find !foraging stories or connect with people doing !origami@feddit.org I know that I have to be patient and that's to bad 'cause if people spend less time commenting US election or some shower thoughts, some people will find time and fun interacting in these communities and many others.

[-] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 16 hours ago

Idk man, in actually seen here and not drowned out

Little a comment I make that doesn't have any interactions, I like that

[-] mayo@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Ya it's not bad. In the popular areas it seems like I can get away with just commenting on things but smaller communities I need to make a post to make it feel not-dead in there.

[-] DaMonsterKnees@lemmy.world 46 points 22 hours ago

No.

I have actual internet friends here. People who, based solely on their efforts and words and interactions, align with my own beliefs and ideals and help me temper and adjust accordingly as time goes on. Adults. I'd happily stay like this or with more, similar people, growing slowly and legitimately.

[-] vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works 9 points 16 hours ago

Agreed. The past year has been a great change from other social media personally. I was Reddit only for the prior 7 or so years and Lemmy feels like a time hop back to pre-dystopic Internet days. I approach it more like my favorite forums from the 90's-00's.

Less content and users are ok when it leads to more civil engagement's.

[-] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 3 points 13 hours ago

Same here. I find lemmy very relaxing. Multiple times a day I’ll see people admit they misunderstood and upvoting each other. It’s quite refreshing. Sure people still be people but. It feels like we care and aren’t throwing trash on the floor. Whereas Reddit everyone will wipe their ass on your nose.

[-] DaMonsterKnees@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

I firmly believe that the reddit takeover was a part of the grand region destabilization plan to sew discord and resentment in our society by foreign powers. I caution that I am not unaware that it is exactly what or alphabet agencies have been doing to the rest of the world.

Communication among humans is the only defense. Cheers to you, friend! Thanks for contributing to the conversation.

[-] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 1 points 11 hours ago

Honestly not a wild conspiracy. The “bad guys” would not want us to socialize/communize as that would only make us stronger in the long run and force them to compete harder.

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[-] andyburke@fedia.io 17 points 19 hours ago

I worry sometimes that the reddit exodus brought mostly bellyachers.

The sheer boringness of these repeated questions about the size, growth, health of the fediverse.

Fuck metrics. Jesus, do you mot get it at all?

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[-] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago

Yes and no.

Yes, I wish the fediverse would become more adopted by the general public because it will continues to improve.

No, because people are stupid assholes

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 13 points 19 hours ago

The largest Lemmy instance is the most boring, full of unfunny memes and the worst Redditor culture. What you want is high quality postrs, not simply more people!

As Lenin said: better fewer, but better.

[-] mayo@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

At this point I've blocked so many .world communities that I don't see that as much. There are some users who I notice bring the reddit antagonism and I tend to block them too. If I come across a post that is full of reddit quips I just block the whole community. I guess I've blocked fewer .ml communities overall.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 hours ago

Good on you! I bet that is actually working out great. I should try something similar with another account.

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I kinda like the lack of content. I don't feel like I'm missing anything here. Mastodon is too busy.

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[-] missingno@fedia.io 18 points 20 hours ago

I used reddit for two things: news, and niche subcommunities around small hobbies and fandoms.

We've got the former here, but I don’t know if we'd ever have enough of a critical mass to sustain the latter. And that sucks for me, because I no longer have a good space for that stuff, but I still don't ever want to go back to reddit now.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 10 points 18 hours ago

We do, people just have to put in the work. I run two niche communities. Satisfactory and Taylor Swift. Both take time to run and manage, I had to be the sole poster in both for a good long time before other people started jumping in and posting with me. Someone has to be willing to put themselves out there.

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