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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/21396125

Stephen Starr in Hamtramck, Michigan
Mon 14 Oct 2024 11.00 EDT

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[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 57 points 1 day ago

She had so many chances to make this election easier. Could have had a Palestinian talk during the DNC, and that would have likely changed this story.

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[-] donescobar@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago

This group is the single greatest gift to the 2024 trump presidency and he doesn’t know it yet!

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[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago

Angry with the Biden administration – and, by extension, Kamala Harris – for its support for Israel, Arab Americans may be willing to overlook Trump’s history of closeness with Israel’s hard-right leaders.

So, these individuals could be described as the common clay of the new West?

[-] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 day ago

yeah man, denigrate them more, that'll surely get them on your side! maybe a touch more smug condescension? anything except engaging with their concerns, of course.

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[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 day ago

You see no difference between people put off by settler-colonial genocide and... settler colonists? What?

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

It's a movie reference. You should watch Blazing Saddles, it's very funny.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 day ago

It's a great movie, I always tell people to watch it!

In the movie, this is a reference to the racist townspeople in the "Western". It's poking fun at the Westerns that romanticized allegedly good and pure settlers (colonizers) and to sympathoze with them. You weren't supposed to think of them as, in Wilder's terms, "morons".

Parent was just trying to call people morons. It's not a clever reference, I got it. But those people are, specifically, Muslims so put off by the genocide of Palestinians that they'd vote against the administration supporting that grmocide. I would say their political acumen is more developed than the genocidal sheepdogging that we see in this thread, people that can't even say the word genocide trying to imply they're the adults in the room. At least they can understand basic leverage and independent action.

But I was making note that the "morons" reference in Blazing Saddles is about settler-colonists whereas the people parent wanted to call morons are literally people that are reacting against settler colonists and their supporters. I think that is an oversight that can only be made through chauvinism, personally. The person wants to feel better than those moved by genocide, they want it to be as narrow as "those people are stupid". They can't contend with the content.

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[-] Fixbeat@lemmy.ml 49 points 1 day ago

Single issue voters, or is this even a single issue because Trump and Harris don’t really have much different on this particular topic? People really have me scratching my head sometimes.

[-] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 day ago

single issue voters

the single issue is the eradication of their families and friends

yeah man I wonder why they don't support that

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 day ago

The single issue: genocide

Why are you sheepdogging for genociders? You have always had the option of saying nothing and educating yourself instead.

[-] Fixbeat@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 day ago

I am not a single issue voter and I don’t think that way. There are many important issues on the line and I will vote for the candidate that addresses the most. I am not saying that genocide is unimportant, just that I can’t impact it with my selection.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 day ago

What is more important than supporting and normalizing genocide?

[-] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

It's like you're mentally incapable of reading a comment and responding to the words in it.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 day ago

I responded directly to what they said re: there being multiple issues they want to weigh. That was their response up me challenging complicity in genocide and asking why the person I was responding to was sheepdogging for genociders. They are trying yo be euphemistic and retreat to the thought-terminsting clichés that reinforce complicity in genocide, which also means avoiding even using the word. So I recontextualized their attempt to decontextualize while still directly addressing it.

Please feel free to tell me which specific parts you would like to see addressed or responded to. I certainly already replied to the first sentence, which was the main point of deflection.

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[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 day ago

There is no difference because Harris knows her good little gooses steppers will vote for her no matter what she does or who she kills.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago

If this is a joke, it's a very bad one. If it isn't, good luck on pulling your head out of your ass.

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