‘They will vote against Harris’: Arab Americans in Michigan desert Democrats over Gaza : usa

[-] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 65 points 1 month ago

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[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 52 points 1 month ago

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[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 59 points 1 month ago

Angry with the Biden administration – and, by extension, Kamala Harris – for its support for Israel, Arab Americans may be willing to overlook Trump’s history of closeness with Israel’s hard-right leaders.

So, these individuals could be described as the common clay of the new West?

[-] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 month ago

yeah man, denigrate them more, that'll surely get them on your side! maybe a touch more smug condescension? anything except engaging with their concerns, of course.

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[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 month ago

You see no difference between people put off by settler-colonial genocide and... settler colonists? What?

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[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 59 points 1 month ago

She had so many chances to make this election easier. Could have had a Palestinian talk during the DNC, and that would have likely changed this story.

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[-] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 55 points 1 month ago

Okay, but, abandon her for whom exactly? Just not vote? Vote 3rd party? I am not going to say Harris is perfect, but this is cutting off your nose to spite your face.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 month ago

Third Party, tyically, that's what most anti-genocide groups are advocating for.

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[-] basmati@lemmus.org 18 points 1 month ago

No, it's cutting off a cancerous growth yourself because you can't afford healthcare. You might die to metastasis, you might die to blood loss, but if you leave the growth alone it will kill you.

And yes most are planning on voting third party.

[-] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

I guess that just doesn't make sense to me in the current political landscape. We know the third party isn't going to get the votes, and we also know that Trump is not only not going to save Gaza, he's going to do everything in his power to make this country worse as well. Currently, voting third party is throwing your vote away. I'm not saying I'm in love with the system or that it isn't fucked, but we have two options this election. Neither of them is going to save Gaza, but I don't see why damming the whole country, as well as yourself, to a worse existence, is the more sane option.

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[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago

Many of the candidates from alternative parties are anti-genocide.

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[+] Fixbeat@lemmy.ml 52 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

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[-] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 month ago

single issue voters

the single issue is the eradication of their families and friends

yeah man I wonder why they don't support that

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 month ago

The single issue: genocide

Why are you sheepdogging for genociders? You have always had the option of saying nothing and educating yourself instead.

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[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 month ago

What is more important than supporting and normalizing genocide?

[-] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

It's like you're mentally incapable of reading a comment and responding to the words in it.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 month ago

I responded directly to what they said re: there being multiple issues they want to weigh. That was their response up me challenging complicity in genocide and asking why the person I was responding to was sheepdogging for genociders. They are trying yo be euphemistic and retreat to the thought-terminsting clichés that reinforce complicity in genocide, which also means avoiding even using the word. So I recontextualized their attempt to decontextualize while still directly addressing it.

Please feel free to tell me which specific parts you would like to see addressed or responded to. I certainly already replied to the first sentence, which was the main point of deflection.

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[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 month ago

There is no difference because Harris knows her good little gooses steppers will vote for her no matter what she does or who she kills.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 month ago

If this is a joke, it's a very bad one. If it isn't, good luck on pulling your head out of your ass.

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[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 39 points 1 month ago

Because Trump who literally said Muslims should wear a "Special ID at all times" back in 2015 is obviously gonna be much better....

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[-] donescobar@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago

This group is the single greatest gift to the 2024 trump presidency and he doesn’t know it yet!

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[-] darth_tiktaalik@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 month ago

Great so now we can have a more certain Trump presidency. Why limit yourself to just one genocide when you can have this guy in power here too:

“How about allowing people to come to an open border, 13,000 of which were murderers, many of them murdered far more than one person, and they’re now happily living in the United States. You know now a murder, I believe this, it’s in their genes. And we got a lot of bad genes in our country right now,”

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[-] lohky@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago

Oh look, anti-Arab racism from liberals already

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[-] graeghos_714@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Both parties are beholden to Israel and the power of AIPAC

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 month ago

Other way around. Both parties support Israel because Israel helps secure the Petro-Dollar, by which the US dominates the Global South with predatory IMF loans.

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