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[-] atocci@lemmy.world 139 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Wait what's the deal with the horses? I want to feel good about myself today.

Edit: Wow, those bastards have it rough.

[-] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 184 points 2 months ago

Their genetics have sacrificed nearly every aspect of basic resiliency for maximum speed on the plains. Most of the work caring for horses is keeping them from accidentally killing themselves. Full disclosure: I worked as a stable hand as a child in exchange for riding lessons. Will never ever own a horse.

[-] gibmiser@lemmy.world 66 points 2 months ago

What preditor was so fast horses had to evolve to that extent??

[-] PyroVK@lemmy.zip 75 points 2 months ago

Big cat. You're aware of the cheetah? Just picture that but not in Africa

[-] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 36 points 2 months ago

You know what really caught me up: where are horses native to?

[-] bstix@feddit.dk 62 points 2 months ago

There are wild horses on the Mongolian steppes.

All other horses are domesticated. Even the free horses in USA and Australia are descendants of domesticated horses.

[-] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 54 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You're right! But also, horses were native to North America but they went extinct 10,000 years ago and weren't introduced until much more recently.

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[-] PyroVK@lemmy.zip 21 points 2 months ago

PBS Eons has a couple good videos on both horse evolution and domestication.

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[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 29 points 2 months ago

Us. They basically tried to beat pursuit predation by outrunning the distance humans will be willing to track over.

It did not work, they went extinct in North America because of how much it did not work.

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[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 60 points 2 months ago

Same for rabbits. The are basically as much lean muscle that can fit on the lighest possible skeleton.

If you pick up a rabbit wrong, they can snap their own back with the momentum from kicking their back legs.

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 45 points 2 months ago

I did this too and will also never own a horse lmao. This is why horse people are weird.

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[-] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 months ago

Basically a 900LB Cocker Spaniel that's afraid of it's own farts and will eventually kill every single tree within reach. I also will never own horses.

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[-] Catoblepas 89 points 2 months ago

Sometimes they will die because they can’t puke. Also broken legs are usually fatal even with vet care.

[-] LennethAegis@fedia.io 106 points 2 months ago

To add on why broken legs are fatal: its because horses are so big, that even with a sling, they cannot support themselves well on 3 legs. And lying down is also not an option as their own weight will crush their internal organs if they stay down for too long.

[-] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 60 points 2 months ago

Oh, wow, I had always thought that shooting a horse with a broken leg was an act of brutal expedience, not mercy.

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[-] frosty99c@midwest.social 26 points 2 months ago

Also, don't they need to run to move food through their digestive tract? Or to force themselves to cough if they have something stuck in their lungs? I think there is some sort of dependency of basic functions that relies on the movement of their lungs/stomach going back and forth while running that they can't easily do if they just stand in one place all day

[-] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

Also their blood gets pumped through their hooves, and to much weight on one hoof can impede blood flow through their body.

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[-] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 73 points 2 months ago

The term healthy as a horse is mostly survivorship bias

[-] elxeno@lemm.ee 38 points 2 months ago

From what i read here there's no unhealthy horse, it's either healthy or dead.

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[-] klemptor@startrek.website 27 points 2 months ago

They only have 4 toes total.

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 39 points 2 months ago

And they run around at 60mph on the tips of their toenails.

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[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 months ago

Humans have multiple toes because our ape ancestors used their toes like fingers. Having multiple, separate toes is probably bad for survival unless you're using toes to manipulate tools.

Animals that have distinct toes include apes, geckos, mice, raccoons and similar animals which need them to grip onto surfaces or to manipulate things. There are predators which have separate toes because they're a place to mount claws: eagles, cats, etc. There are animals that have separate toes with webbing between for swimming. But, for a lot of animals, separate toes aren't really useful, so they've evolved away: elephants, rhinos, giraffes, horses, cows, etc.

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[-] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 76 points 2 months ago

Tbf, our teeth aren't bad. They just didn't evolve to consume so much sugar.

[-] DarkGamer@fedia.io 75 points 2 months ago

From an evolutionary standpoint we just have to survive long enough to reproduce, if we can't eat past age of reproduction there's no evolutionary pressure to change that.

Thank goodness for modern dentistry.

[-] Hawke@lemmy.world 64 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That’s completely untrue.

Evolution applies to the entire lifespan — if we could “reproduce” but died in childbirth every time, our species would have gone extinct long ago.

Parents and grandparents also contribute greatly to the success of a child long long after they’re born, helping to ensure it also survives to reproductive age.

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[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 months ago

They just didn’t evolve to consume so much sugar.

Bro, eating oranges puts our tooth enamel in a weakened state. If we were designed, it was by an idiot.

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[-] aquinteros@lemmy.world 42 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

tbf horses have big dicks, it could have been worse for them

[-] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 50 points 2 months ago

You stand on your toenails

[-] RamSwamson@lemmy.sdf.org 29 points 2 months ago

Both valid points. I will still need some time to take this all into consideration.

[-] killingspark@feddit.org 23 points 2 months ago

Consider this: horses can't puke and just die if they eat something bad

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[-] psud@aussie.zone 37 points 2 months ago

The teeth thing is just because of our high sugar, high grain diet

The first* people with bad dental health were Egyptians as they lived on bread (which packs your teeth and feeds the bacteria that ferment it and make acid) before that, and until the invention spread, people died of old age with all their teeth intact

I eat very low carb - almost entirely meat due to allergies, and haven't had a cavity since I started doing that, despite me nearly never brushing or flossing my teeth

*There were also people who lived in the tropics and ate a lot of fruit, and those with sugar cane.

[-] Lux18@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago

You never brush your teeth? It's not only good for health dude

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 37 points 2 months ago

Dolphins probably lament not being able to make milk come out of their buddy's nose by making them laugh while drinking.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

THE APPENDIX HAS ENTERED THE CHAT.

Being able to make our own Vitamin C aside, the fact that a vestigial organ can randomly decide to fucking kill you is asinine from a design perspective. Its the equivalent to building a pool in the sims and removing the ladder for the first person who wanders inside.

[-] Liz@midwest.social 41 points 2 months ago

It's not totally vestigial, it helps regulate colon bacteria. People without their appendix take longer to recover from diarrhea, which is important when bad water and spoiled food are a more regular part of your life.

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[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 23 points 2 months ago

I am 99% sure humans are supposed to have tails

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 22 points 2 months ago

I sure as hell am supposed to. A big, floofy one.

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[-] foggianism@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

Look up the recurrent laryngeal nerve.

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[-] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 18 points 2 months ago

Could be worse:

We don't have cloacas.

[-] SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net 17 points 2 months ago

Idk, shitting an egg/baby sounds a lot better than present human childbirth..

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