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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 171 points 1 year ago

Now we can not buy their games on Steam, too! 😃

[-] randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com 111 points 1 year ago

Epic enshittified early. The whole system was terrible and they force it onto you. Here is valve actively making it easier to play your games while epic was like "It's PC gaming, you get the good with the bad, suck it!". You can't simply buy your competition when your competition has more money than God.

Epic is failing because Tim Sweeney refused to innovate the platform.

[-] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 94 points 1 year ago

Fuck Tim Sweeney with a linux powered dildo.

He is the reason linux gaming is being held back.

[-] zyratoxx@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Pornhub video title would be: "Getting all my weak spots penetrated at once by software using 'unsafe custom kernels' "

[-] dankm@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago

Even Microsoft doesn't seem to be actively preventing their games from running on Linux. Fuck Sweeney.

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[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 74 points 1 year ago

That picture of Gaben badly needs the addition of someone feeding him grapes

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago

I'm not busy...

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

Someone add the stylized female version of Engineer feeding him grapes

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[-] MudMan@fedia.io 58 points 1 year ago

Man, I don't like the Steam monopoly on principle, but I have to admit I do struggle to pay attention to Epic exclusives. It's simply the launcher I open the least after GOG and Steam. I've though "hey, wasn't that Ubi Star Wars thing out" like two or three times and forgot about it between remembering that's an Epic thing and deciding whether I wanted to buy it.

But hey, since we're going multiplat again, I could use some newer Ubi games on GOG, too.

[-] Dasnap@lemmy.world 75 points 1 year ago

Valve is just one shite CEO away from going from PC's blessing to its curse.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I choose to believe that Gabe's will bequeaths Steam to a cohort of independent non-profits and co-ops which will each be charged with attempting to continue to elevate gamers and gaming according to Gabe's 1,200 page manifesto.

[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 50 points 1 year ago

GabeN will name twelve disciples who will spread His word and continue His work.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

sixteen (0-F), but yes.

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[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you think about the fact that he's taking enough profit from every sales to pay his employees more than the industry average and to be a multi billionaire while his clients can barely afford a house or can't afford one at all then the current CEO is already shit...

Fuck all billionaires.

[-] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 37 points 1 year ago

It’s a good monopoly, for now and hopefully for a long time.

The fact that Valve went out of their way to make gaming better in Linux, says a lot imho.

[-] kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago

I like Valve, but I will point out what's been said before - Valve has a stake in making Linux gaming better, since it enables the Steam Deck to exist and prosper. They could've chosen other options that don't help the community, but they didn't choose this entirely selflessly, since they reap the benefits from not just their own work, but also that of the open source developers.

[-] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 10 points 1 year ago

I don’t doubt that, but Steam was available for Linux, a long time before the Steam Deck and even SteamOS, as far as I remember.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The steam deck wasn't even a sketch on paper when Valve started pushing Linux. It's been their route forward into all forms of hardware. I'm sure it's not long before we get a stand alone VR headset that runs Linux, which seems to me to be the real goal. The Deck was just a step along the way.

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[-] HeckGazer@programming.dev 30 points 1 year ago

It's tough for any public companies to compete because they keep setting off their own footguns, ensuring they don't succeed in the space. As long as Gabe is around I'm okay with this one (1) monopoly, as a treat.

[-] cynar@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The weirdest thing is that steam doesn't have a natural or self reinforcing monopoly. It wouldn't take much for another company to copy their business model, and provide a competitor. In practice, however, they all fall flat on their faces.

Steam's model is to give up short term gain for a smaller long term gain. Over time, this has snowballed into what we see now. Gabe is happy to get ever richer from his golden goose laying away. The competitors get started, then try and gut the goose for a quick buck.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 9 points 1 year ago

It kind of does.

You get user lock-in as users buy more games, making it so Steam is always a store to buy from. You can't deplatform from Steam. At that point, you can't replace Steam with another DRM platform to pay existing games. That creates a large customer base which becomes a must add for vending new games.

It isn't a hard monopoly, but it helps create a soft monopoly.

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[-] poszod@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I'm on the same page as you, it's tough. I have no idea how any other platform can really achieve competitor status with steam, and this is a big problem for us consumers and for developers.

[-] Broken_Monitor@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

All Epic had to do was build a good store front with similar features as Steam provides. They didn’t. Their store sucked from the beginning and it also blows now. Relying purely on exclusives and freebies was a losing game - they needed to back it up by making the service worthwhile beyond that, and they utterly failed to do so.

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[-] PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

I have no idea how any other platform can really achieve competitor status with steam

Aside from all the (other) obvious options replicating Steam, theres always the tried and true option of offering lower prices. To my knowledge, no one has been willing to try that yet.

[-] Pfifel@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Lower prices was a promise by Epic. We take a smaller cut from the devs so the savings can be passed down to the customers.

Didnt happen, buying on Epic is just getting a worse experience and giving the devs more money for it.

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[-] zyratoxx@lemm.ee 49 points 1 year ago
[-] bitwolf@lemmy.one 37 points 1 year ago

That's half the reason I don't buy Ubisoft games. The other half is their launcher and DRM system.

[-] thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 year ago

Why is it always this one photo of Gabe? It's like a meme format that journalists use unironically any time Steam comes up.

[-] xenoclast@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think because (health aside), it projects huge IDGAF energy.. which goes well with the stories.

Maybe these corporate parasites that ruin the industry could learn the lesson that it is a lot more profitable to not be a piece of shit. And treat people with respect.

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[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 year ago

Oh man, that picture of Gabe just keeps getting better.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 year ago

for the love of god and gaming, please don't buy ubisoft games

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[-] Wahots@pawb.social 16 points 1 year ago

Ubisoft left steam? Didn't even know it, their games have gotten terrible reviews for so long, and their uplay platform is so shitty, I have skipped them until they fixed their game dev or cancelled uplay, haha.

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[-] Shape4985@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago

Didnt even know they left. Not bothered with any of their games in so long.

[-] luciole@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Despite the corporate crust one has to deal with when playing a Ubisoft game, I do enjoy how hard they go on Diversity, Equity & Inclusion. The seemingly endless flow of bigoted tears that follows is priceless.

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