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submitted 1 month ago by BrikoX@lemmy.zip to c/gaming@lemmy.zip

It's like the Helldivers 2 incident, but for a single-player game, there's no excuse.

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[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 123 points 1 month ago

It's not review bombing when there's a legitimate problem!

[-] lud@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

How much of a problem is it really though?

I don't like it but eh.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 11 points 1 month ago

Publishers are trying to exclude "review bombing" because they think it's just social manipulation, while just casually ignoring that there are actual problems with the game. Review bombing used to be something else, but now be wary of it because it's usually them just trying to discredit actual concerns.

[-] Chozo@fedia.io 2 points 1 month ago

You can have actual concerns without abusing the review function, though. If you don't own and never planned to play the game and are "reviewing" it because something on the internet made you angry, then that just discredits the actual review platform as a whole.

Reviews should be an actual review, not a tweet reply. If you haven't actually played the game, don't review it.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 points 1 month ago

Sure - problem is that publishers are not making that distinction and calling any mass negative review (like a bad release, or game crashing bug) "review bombing".

[-] SquirtleHermit@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

How much of a problem it is will vary by how much it impacts and upsets a customer. For you, sounds like it's not that big of an issue.

But the fact that they pulled out the "review bombing" exscuse means that it qualifies as a problem to a significant percentage of customers.

I hate the "review bombing" term.

[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 month ago

It’s been diluted by improper use, not unlike “trolling” or “incel.”

[-] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 66 points 1 month ago

God of War Ragnarok PC port ~~suffers~~ earns review bombing on Steam due to PlayStation Network account requirement

Fixed it for them

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

God of War Ragnorak earns thousands of bad reviews as Sony launches inferior product

FTFY

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 57 points 1 month ago

"Review Bombing" implies these aren't legitimate reviews from miltiple real peoples.

Sony is just selling an inferior product, that should be the headline.

[-] ObsidianZed@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago
[-] nek0d3r@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago

I hate that the term "review bombing" completely generalized to just "a lot of negatively reviewing something". Review bombing is supposed to be negative reviewing that's not relevant to the game, like when it was originally used to speak out against publishers, because, you know, that's the only thing that seemed to get their attention. Now we just have the tools and excuses to just kill genuine criticism.

[-] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

Remember when this happened with Helldivers and a bunch of people switched their review back from negative to positive when Sony backed off the requirement? Because they'd "learned their lesson"? Lol

[-] Zahille7@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

G*mers are some of the most entitled, weak-willed people in existence.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Sony still left the rootkit in the game, though. I think Helldivers 2 might still be active if not for that.

[-] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

As it should.

[-] Bonje@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

I think this will end with playstation making yet another launcher on PC. No paying Gabe a cut, PSN all they want, tight review control. Really hope it doesn't come to that.

[-] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Then they can join the list of 'AAA' game publishers that have had to eat crow and (re)release on steam after their own launchers flopped horribly.

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

Don't you need to have the game in order to review it? Or did that change?

[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 month ago

People are buying it, unable to play because of PlayStation account requirement (the PlayStation servers are having issues and not letting people log in or create an account), and then leaving an angry review and refunding it.

[-] 474D@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

People will buy it, review, and then get a refund within the return window.

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

I was thinking that after I commented. Sounds right.

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

That does sound like review bombing then. People elsewhere in the thread are arguing about definitions.

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I read those conversations. I wouldn't call this review bombing. This is people buying it and being upset with the product, then leaving a review and returning it.

That's part of what a review system is meant for.

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I doubt the majority of those incidents are people who bought it without knowing about the controversy first. Thats why they can be grouped and labeled as something other than standard reviews.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

The majority of people aren’t serially online and reading gamer drama forums.

[-] cory_lowry@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I've already beaten the game. It hasn't asked me to sign in. There's still a "sign in" button in the main menu.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 points 1 month ago

Funny, I don't remember PC gamers flipping out when they had to make UPlay accounts and Rockstar Social Club accounts to play those games on Steam. Those were single player as well.

[-] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago

I was one of those people flipping out about the Rockstar Social Club and Ubisoft Connect crap. There's zero need to force additional DRM on paying customers. We might not have all been vocal but we were around.

[-] Harrk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Considering the requirement doesn’t impact me personally as I have an account. I do understand part of the backlash. Requiring players to sign up to an account for a single player game that then asks you for to upload your government ID is kinda a bit much. I’d be sour too if I had to do likewise.

[-] kratoz29@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

For reviewing a game it is needed to buy it on Steam (my logical thinking would say, yes.).

If that is correct then I think a better way to express your disagreement with this game would be simply don't buy it, or just pirate it (if it is possible).

[-] EldritchFeminity 11 points 1 month ago

Steam has a very generous 2 hours played policy where the system will basically refund you no questions asked so long as you have played less than 2 hours of the game (refunds beyond that are totally possible but usually require manual review before approval).

This means that you can buy the game, open it once, leave a negative review, and get it refunded. Which is more impactful on Sony's bottom line than leaving a review on Metacritic or something because it directly affects the game's rating on the largest platform for PC gaming, and is therefore more likely to see action taken to fix the issue. Sony doesn't care if people make angry social media posts, but they will care if they can directly see it impacting their profit margins.

[-] BurningRiver@beehaw.org 1 points 1 month ago

This is actually a fantastic idea. How long will it take Valve to threaten account bans for doing it?

[-] EldritchFeminity 1 points 1 month ago

People have been doing it for years as far as I know. It's kinda where this whole "review bombing" thing comes from. It seems like Valve's policy is to label these kinds of mass reviews as "off-topic activity" and remove them from affecting the normal rating for the game. If you see a game with an asterisk next to its score on Steam, hovering over the asterisk will tell you that some reviews have been removed from the score for this reason. They're still publicly there, and you can go into the details of the score to see those periods highlighted, but they no longer affect the score that you see on the storefront.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

Or review it on other platforms

this post was submitted on 21 Sep 2024
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