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[-] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 303 points 8 months ago

News flash for wealthy authoritarian parasites around the world, because you all seem ignorant of this fact:

Declining birthrates are a direct result of the simple fact that more people all the time decide that they have no desire to bring children into this world, and that in turn is a direct result of the fact that you've turned this world into a warped, corrupt, toxic, authoritarian shithole.

You have no one to blame but yourselves.

[-] gandalf_der_12te 72 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I disagree. There's a lot of reasons why people don't have children, including:

  • emotional devastated youth (abandoned by parents, addicted to smartphones, misunderstood by society)
  • people can't find partners for this reason
  • too much stress from too much work
  • wages are barely keeping up with inflation, and I project they will in fact not keep up in the long term in the US due to missing labor protections and decreasing demand for labor.
  • rising cost of living because politically, nobody really cares about the population.

edit: sorry i realized i made these points US-specific but you were talking about russia, sorry.

[-] kirk781@discuss.tchncs.de 46 points 8 months ago

They aren't necessarily US specific. Wages not keeping up with inflation and rising cost of living is a factor from South Korea to Japan to Singapore as well. Some countries muck it up themselves like China with their one child policy back in the day (even the Chinese fertility rate has dipped below 2.2, I think).

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 15 points 8 months ago

Well, it's only a very, very recent problem in Japan. They had stagnation for decades. Little to no change in wages, little to no change in prices. In 2011, I was making something like 33,000 USD per year there and living very comfortably with ample savings and what the Japanese considered to be a large apartment. It's a pretty affordable country, aside from travel. Or if you want to live in a fancy place in a desirable big city neighborhood.

(And yes, I have been to Japan since then and know that things have changed somewhat. It's still cheap compared to the US. Food is so cheap, it's amazing what you can get.)

[-] azimir@lemmy.ml 29 points 8 months ago
  • Women get educated
  • Women get their own money
  • Women get control over reproductive rights and tools

So much of our world is based around women keeping it on the rails without receiving credit for their efforts.

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[-] XTL@sopuli.xyz 13 points 8 months ago

In a developing country rates also go down with civilization as people learn how not to breed like bacteria. But once it's about choice, that starts to be a good list. I'd almost list safety as a common theme in them. And in Russia.. yeah.

[-] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 10 points 8 months ago

No - actually I was talking worldwide. Russia's just a notable example.

And I would say that all of the things you listed are, directly or indirectly, consequences of the fact that wealthy authoritarian parasites have warped societies to their benefit regardless of the harm done to others, so are actually examples of exactly what I'm talking about.

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[-] M500@lemmy.ml 39 points 8 months ago

My wife and I both work over 40 hour weeks. We are pretty comfortable especially compared to our friends and family members and we are not even close to buying a house and don’t have time to raise a kid and still think it’s too expensive to do so.

[-] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 9 points 8 months ago

And if the world were a just place instead of a twisted shithole designed to maximize the privilege of a relative few wealthy and empowered parasites, you could work fewer hours, make the same or even more money and afford a house.

But instead the system has been warped so that you have to work long hours for insufficient pay and still can't afford a decent life, and all so that a relative few executives, board nembers, bankers, investors and politicians can siphon off the bulk of the wealth you generate so that they can buy more houses and bigger yachts.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

I REALLY wish it weren't against TOS to log into my Fedia.io account, and my piefed account to upvote you 3 times.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

industrialization is linked with lower birth rates. Its probably because people need room to breath to fuck around.

[-] Furball@sh.itjust.works 125 points 8 months ago

If only there was something he could do to reduce the death rate in Russia

[-] Dagnet@lemmy.world 72 points 8 months ago

Maybe barred windows? So many people seem to die from falling through windows there, apparently all terrible accidents

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

Orrrrr......and hear me out.......they buy better tanks, and train their military so they don't take so many casualties.

I mean, longshot here, but I GUESS they could technically stop trying to invade Ukraine, retreat their troops back into proper russia borders, and sign a peace treaty.......naaaahhhhh, that would never work! If it were THAT easy, they never would have chose to start a war they would lose so badly at! SURELY they only started this war because there was a good reason, right?.......right?........guys?

[-] IMongoose@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

What are you talking about? Day 935 of the 3 day war is going great!

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 121 points 8 months ago

have they considered not sending everyone to ukraine to die?

[-] Chickenslippers@lemmy.world 45 points 8 months ago

At this point they don't even need to go to Ukraine anymore, they have Ukraine at home to deal with

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago

That's right! Ukraine comes to you!

Every day, that final bullet comes closer and closer to putins head.

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[-] Arcity@feddit.nl 20 points 8 months ago

Nah, he needs babies for the meat grinder.

[-] hungover_pilot@lemmy.world 120 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Wow that sounds terrible... Especially with encouraging employers to increase birth rates, a lot of sexual assault/harassment is going to be swept under the rug.

[-] FundMECFSResearch 18 points 8 months ago

Newsflash. We’re talking about conservative Russia here. It already was :/.

[-] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 9 points 8 months ago
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[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

Yo, you think Republicans aren't listening and taking notes? In fact they WOULD encourage sexual assaults. at work and everywhere else - gotta produce babies. It's how they roll.

[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Also they think it's their only hope of sex, because nobody willingly chooses them.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 84 points 8 months ago

If he's concerned about the population, he can just stop sending young men off to war....

[-] assembly@lemmy.world 33 points 8 months ago

Seriously! Stop sending off the young men who could be fathers to die in Ukraine. At some point Ukraine will have killed over 1 million of these people that should never have had to leave home.

[-] azimir@lemmy.ml 17 points 8 months ago

Plus the estimated million+ who smartly fled Russia in the first year of the war.

[-] uienia@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

He is not concerned about the population, he is concerned about not having enough young men to send off to war.

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 6 points 8 months ago

Not until he's gotten through all of the peasants who live in the countryside.

[-] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 64 points 8 months ago

“Being very busy at work is not a valid reason, but a lame excuse. You can engage in procreation during breaks because life flies by too quickly,” he remarked

Yes, birth rates are falling because nobody has time to fuck. That's definitely the problem...

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago

Well of coarse they don't have time to fuck.....they're all too busy filling out paperwork for all the dead bodies that keep piling up.

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[-] sadTruth@lemmy.hogru.ch 61 points 8 months ago

If the fertility rate remains below 2, it will become harder and harder to wage war. And if it femains below 2 long enough there will be nobody left to wage war (or die in it).

So please sacrifice your precious time, health and money for your future children. Do it for the love of war!

[-] APassenger@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

They're doing a great job of removing young men already...

[-] seejur@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

Soon enough all those ads about hot Russian women near me might become a reality!

[-] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

They’ll be advertising in China with all those extra men.

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[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 28 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Russian navy:

oh god… seamen… seamen everywhere, in every compartment, inescapable. The seamen pervade everything. Save yourselves. And use cold water to get the stains out.

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[-] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

does putin think two women can make a baby?

[-] howrar@lemmy.ca 23 points 8 months ago

Probably not. But have you considered one male authority figure and a cohort of female underlings?

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 10 points 8 months ago

I think I tasted a bit of bile in the back of my throat when I read your comment.

[-] Tja@programming.dev 7 points 8 months ago

In 4.5 months, actually!

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[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago
[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

Actually, the motto in russia is "And then it got worse"

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[-] uebquauntbez@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago
[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 10 points 8 months ago

Make Love I Got All These Soldiers Killed And Need More

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Apparently Putin wants both.

[-] gandalf_der_12te 8 points 8 months ago

To raise their motivation to come to work, right?

To raise their motivation to come to work, right?

insert padme meme

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[-] superkret@feddit.org 6 points 8 months ago
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