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Trump is 100% going to blame this loser when he fucks the election up, and the following insurrection attempt.
If Trump loses in November he'll be in jail by January. The sentencing has already been scheduled. If the election is going to be stolen it'll have to be stolen when the votes are cast or counted, not when the election is certified.
he’ll be in jail by January.
Sigh - no he won't, so can we stop pretending like he will ever face punishment for anything?
I would believe a "house arrest" at Maralago. A house arrest where he gets to pick his security and visitors like ~~Columbia~~ Colombia did with Escobar.
I would believe a “house arrest” at Maralago.
I would too, unless Congress revokes his Secret Service detail. Secret Service protection is what makes imprisoning him difficult, it's either house arrest or they rededicate an entire prison wing to just him.
I wouldn't let him pick his security and restrict his visitors though. And absolutely no internet or social media. It's supposed to be a punishment, after all.
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Cool. So fucking arrest him. He's a public figure that knowingly and willingly endangered an entire population. Throw the book at his big fat eyelined face.
Why did everyone believe this obvious fake news?
everyone
everyone didn't believe it. those primed to buy conspiracy bullshit sure did tho.
huh.
Conspiracy bullshit and racism.
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The crazy thing is: If he hadn't admitted this, there wouldn't have been calls for his resignation. The Republican party is fine with spreading harmful misinformation, but admitting to it is a no-go.
The Republican party needs to have plausible deniability. In the conservative playbook, it's okay to repeat things that they know for a fact are untrue, or to tell a lie of omission to further their agenda, because they can always walk it back at the point in time which they are receiving blowback by saying they didn't know it wasn't true or that they didn't have all the facts at hand. Assuming that the lie doesn't manifest itself into truth or that there are enough people who care enough about the real truth to bother fact checking it at all to the point where it would necessarily generate any kind of controversy.
This was Vance saying the quiet part out loud, probably by accident, and his pivot was not convincing at all.
He broke kayfabe.
Make all the “calls” you want. For someone to voluntarily resign under these circumstances, they need to feel guilt/shame. I’m not sure Vance is capable of either. He will not resign.
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“If I have to create stories so that the American media actually has to pay attention to the suffering of American people, then that’s what I’m going to do,” said Vance, a U.S. Senator representing Ohio.
Ironically, Vance’s attempt to point out imagined “suffering” has led to actual suffering by his own constituents.
Wow. What a horrible piece of shit. I knew he was ‘bad news’. But like. God damn. You’re a fucking moron. A perfect Trump pick for VP.
If my eyes rolled back any further I’d go blind.
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This fucking lie ended a conversation (that started about plumbing of all things!) between myself and my father with me screaming at him for being racist and him hanging up on me saying "Enjoy your fucking liberal life. Im hanging up now. Love you. Bye."
As a rule, I do NOT speak politics with my family because theyre HUGE MAGAts and Im the exact opposite. But my father is one who HAS to bait me. He just...its in his fucking DNA code or something. And usually I grit my teeth through it, but I couldnt this time.
Ughhhhh this pisses me off so much because I really thought that he would snort and roll his eyes at THIS lie at least. But no. He unironically believes this shit. Its fucking dangerous.
Yeah, therapists have noted a sharp upward trend of people dealing with politically driven grief. Basically, people separating from their family members due to political differences. And it’s almost universally from liberal people cutting off their Trump-crazed parents.
This, I believe 100%. I just got assigned a new therapist and have only had one session with them so far. However, I know for a fact that this is going to be a massive topic that I need to unpack with them.
It sucks because you just know all these parents will blame "the liberal media influencing the snowflake younger generation", rather than having any introspection.
I fear its going to make Boomers/Gen X even more radicalized than they already are, and double down on reforming schools to suit the Christian narrative.
Sorry man. My fam and I went separate ways about a year ago due to this stuff. It's a sickness spread by a for profit entity which is the GOP. Doesn't feel good at all, but things got so ugly that the silence between us now is a welcome form of peace at least.
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Friend, it's really not worth it. You can cut out family members that insist on drama but otherwise you can just keep radio silence on topics that aren't mutually interesting.
People can change their minds but it isn't ever anyone outside forcing that change... significant changes always come from internal realizations.
Just enjoy your life and keep your sanity - I'm sorry you were saddled with a family deeply entrenched in the MAGA crazy.
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He is such a loser, no wonder Trump picked him as VP. They smell their own.
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I expect he's going to say he didn't mean that he fabricated the story, but instead meant that he "created the story" in the sense of bringing it to the media's attention
He did say exactly that in the interview when called out. It's in the twitter thread linked.
Towards the end.
He should resign. He is a spineless piece of trash and will do and say anything for power.
Thats probably why Trump picked him.
Trump picked him because he said he wouldn't have certified the election in 2020.
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Its about time there is some accountability for spreading such falsehoods. Does Libel not apply to this, or any law? Come on, he endangered an entire group of his own constituents. They are legally here.
Unfortunately and with deep regrets, I think it'd be tough. From https://lipskylowe.com/when-are-false-accusations-of-racism-defamation/ there are four points:
False Statement about the target was stated as fact (not opinion)
Publication or communication of that statement to a third person
Fault on the part of the person making the statement amounting at least to negligence
Harm to the subject of the statement (damages)
Considering how hard he's publicly pushed the story as a true fact, I think prongs 1 and 2 have been met. Alas, I can see 3 being not reached (he checked with his constituents who claimed the story was true and a judge accepts that as sufficient due diligence).
And 4 would be the hardest - how does one prove damages (like a dollar amount) and that they were specifically caused by his comments?
It'd be hard but I thinks a case can be made by analyzing violence against the Haitian community before and after the comments. We have a date for when it was said, which can serve as our starting point for after. It might not be the easiest but its definitely within reason. On top of it all, I'm tired of this and thats by design. To so obviously be trashing and damaging these communities, but due to the law still have believable excuses. Its bullshit. We know and so do the rubes.
People need to call it what it is, as often as needed: stochastic terrorism
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Please don't let him resign. We need him to keep making the trump campaign look even worse.
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This increases my gut feeling that Vance has eaten someone’s cat from about 60% to 95%.
I am 95% sure that this fucker has, at some point in his life, eaten someone’s cat.
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He should definitely resign from the Senate. I'm not sure if he's legally allowed to back out of the VP nomination.
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There should be calls to toss him into a volcano and they should be getting serious traction
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Have we ever had a presidential candidate swap, and then a VP swap in the same election year before?
Can he be swapped? I thought the reason Biden got swapped is because he wasn't locked in yet, but now the candidates are locked in.
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“In the wake of JD Vance admitting he ‘created’ the pet-eating story, and as a result of the very real threats the communities and people he has targeted are now under … I am calling on him to RESIGN as our Senator,” Weinstein posted on Twitter/X.
Let's hope he remains on the ticket for VP, though. I'd hate for the orange bad to backfill him with someone more likable (by their standards) and have an uptick.
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He didn't create it, but he should resign anyway because he is a sack of shit.
The Trumpublican voters knew it was a lie from the beginning, they don’t care about truth. Vance supplied them with phony story to justify racism and create outrage and they were happy to play along.
It’s a sick game and when people rightly pointed out what a farce the whole thing was they were simply dismissed by the magachuds as “sheeple” and “libtards”.
There is no reasoning with these brain rotted cultists
Their candidates are quite literally the worst possible choices and they LOVE THEM
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I'll never quit! First attempt.... I'll never leave his side! Second attempt.... Oh shit this is real! Fuck that! Yeah Haitians are nice people I shouldn't have lied! I'm sorry. I'm subjugating, quitting, resigning, whatever you want!
Oh that's it, just the two? Yeah I'm never leaving his side! Even if Haitians eat all my cats.
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