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[-] SnotFlickerman 220 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

have air conditioning

have air conditioning

I read the whole article because I had a sneaking suspicion this was probably the biggest (and most important to drivers) upgrade. Although I will be fair and say the ability to walk through the vehicle to get packages instead of having to circle around to the back is pretty fucking sweet as well.

[-] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 92 points 3 months ago

basically how i see it with delivery trucks, you need a few things.

heated/air vented seats for driver comfort along with AC.

easy access to the back of the truck

as well as room to stand in the truck, because the driver is going to have to constantly get in and out of the driver seat, so being able to get out easier/faster is good.

[-] KingGordon@lemmy.world 51 points 3 months ago

And a…. checks notes….. giant FUCKING window.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

High visibility is probably a good idea for a vehicle designed for residential deliveries.

[-] KingGordon@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

Yes. It looks like it was designed to have great visibility of kids in front, unlike most pickups and other trucks today.

[-] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

Yes, I'm 6ft and have to hunch over in the back of the LLV, or squat down while re-sorting packages. The inner compartment door is one of the best things about the LLV since the heaters suck and it helps keep the heat in the cabin, plus the ease of access.

I haven't gotten to use one of these new trucks because I'm in a smaller office which will likely be one of the last to get them but they did try and get us the newer Metris vans which are horrible. No inner compartment door so you have to constantly get out and no adjustability to the mail tray.

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 118 points 3 months ago

EVs for service vehicles that do a lot of local starts and stops is a no-brainer. Should have been done a long time ago. It's no wonder that they're getting good reception, after years of working with worn out equipment. I regularly see tow trucks with a Grumman.

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 83 points 3 months ago

Trump’s guy Louis deJoy did his damndest to prevent USPS from adopting EVs.

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[-] pufferfisherpowder@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

There's a bunch of electric garbage trucks in my city. My kid is obsessed with any heavy machinery these days so we were watching one and I got to talking to the driver. He told me that he absolutely loves them. They are easy to operate, they accelerate fast, they seem to break down less.
I have seen them accelerate, they go hard. And it's just so fucking cool to have a big dump truck be silent?! I cannot get over how happy it makes me that they're just chilling silently when they're stopped. Makes my mornings more peaceful.

[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago

I'm surprised (and very happy) that the driver loves it. Getting truckers on board with electric semis is a huge challenge, so if other heavy truck drivers like their electrics that will hopefully help win them over.

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[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

They and transit buses should have been the driver (heh) for hybrids at least.

[-] mercano@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

The last Grumman LLV rolled off the assembly line 30 years ago, and has been probably been driven six days a week, except federal holidays, ever since. I’m not surprised they’re on their last legs.

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[-] sparky1337@ttrpg.network 7 points 3 months ago

Honestly anything would have been better than those old iron dukes. They were dated in the 80’s

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 63 points 3 months ago

My dogs know the sound of Mailman Mike's truck when it's a couple blocks away. They go outside to get a treat from him every day when he drives by. I'm guessing they won't do this once he switches to a quiet EV.

Electric motors gave a quiet high pitched whine that will be extremely easy for dogs to hear and will the mailman is coming once they catch on.

So glad to see the upgrade actually has quality of life features for the drivers beyond not needing to breathe in exhaust fumes all day!

[-] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 54 points 3 months ago

Hey American modern pick up truck heads. Notice how normal the bonnet is? Notice how you can SEE enough to not run people over? This is a true utility vehicle. Look how massive this bad boy is without being a death machine 👍

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

but it doesn't have enough sharp edges i feel like. what if i want to slice a kid in half?

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[-] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 months ago

It's also absolutely adorable 😂

(which is probably why they'd hate it 🙄)

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[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 48 points 3 months ago

Omg, I love them.

And if that is not a Trucky McTruckyface I dont know what is.

[-] Mac@mander.xyz 35 points 3 months ago

"The BEV variant has an estimated range of 70 mi (110 km) and a computed consumption of 1.34 kW⋅h/mi (25.2 mpg‑e). Although using the air conditioner was not expected to affect the range, using the heater was expected to reduce range by up to half. Based on the typical distance driven, it was assumed that only 20% of the battery state of charge would be used each day for most NGDVs; analysis of USPS mail carrier routes demonstrated the all-electric variant's range could accommodate 95% of all routes."

have to go elsewhere for vehicle specs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oshkosh_NGDV?wprov=sfla1

[-] wittilysarcastic@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Is this not the car from Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs?

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[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 27 points 3 months ago

100 in 2024 is not a big launch. That is 3 second egg soft type of soft launch.

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 35 points 3 months ago

It's not as fast as I'd like either, but it's a lot better than the original USPS plan to replace them with diesel trucks.

[-] vanontom@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The first batch is possibly arriving in one city. (Pics or it didn't happen, of course. AP delivers!) Well, that's nice... at least they actually exist?! (That's a bit of a low bar.) But congrats to the first drivers of these little ducks.

I'm worried it's going to take another decade or three for the trucks to actually arrive in the numbers needed. Hopefully the USPS can survive our deplorable politics until then. They are invaluable for small businesses and keeping all mail couriers competitive.

[-] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 months ago

I love it they look like ducks 🦆

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

They’re totally going to have to do that wrap.

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[-] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 3 months ago

Do they love them because they're electric or because they finally got a new truck?

[-] BambiDiego@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago

Because they have Air Conditioning.

The thing they should have had for the last 40 years. With record breaking heat year after year it should be hazard pay without ac

[-] Wooster@startrek.website 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Airbags, Anti lock Brakes, and hopefully leg room are probably bonuses too.

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[-] Daxtron2@startrek.website 8 points 3 months ago

They couldn't use an actual photo instead of whatever that edited trash is lol

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Why does it have a grille?

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 36 points 3 months ago
  • Big batteries need cooling during charging.
  • A/C units need to do heat exchange.
  • Aesthetics
[-] derpgon@programming.dev 11 points 3 months ago

Aesthetics

Especially apparent when you look at this abomination

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[-] cybervseas@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

They look pretty cool, too! I hope our mail carrier gets one soon. They've given her a van for now since I guess the old Grumman one she was using finally conked out.

[-] TheHotze@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Plus the cool hood really helps with seeing over the hood, makes them safer.

[-] cogman@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

The one thing I wish they did with these things is make the roof out of solar panels.

These things are going to spend most days sitting outside in direct sunlight. They have nice big flat roofs which makes them pretty perfect to throw on solar panels. You likely would not need much charge infrastructure for the new vehicles and you'd have cut the ownership cost down even more significantly (especially in states with high electrical rates).

Regardless, these things are a no-brainer even without solar on all the vehicles. These are low speed vehicles with dedicated routes and loads of stop/go action. There's not a more clear place to use an EV.

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 17 points 3 months ago

Solan panels on vehicles sounds like a great idea but the physics makes it a stupid gimmick.

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