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What is your favorite mythological figure (of ancient religions only)?

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[-] bufalo1973@lemmy.ml 31 points 2 months ago
[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

It might seem like a subjective question, but the answer is objectively Prometheus and his replacements in other cultures.

Someone that went against God(s) to give humans knowledge that at the time was considered magical

Like, we talk about how much tech changes stuff today, but fucking fire?

Imagine being alive when your group of humans mastered fire. That shit would have been fucking mind breaking.

[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

He is the one that have humans fire and was chained to the rock for all time while having his guts eaten by a bird each day which healed each night?

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Yep.

The OG Light Bringer sentenced to eternal damnation for providing knowledge to humans.

And yes, I'm still salty Christians made him the bad guy.

Can you explain further? I don't recall that Prometheus was mentioned at all by that particular religious group.

Being alive in the time fire was invented - well it's hard to say since it was Homo Erectus who did so, some millions of years ago. Modern humans are very different from good ole' Erectus, and we think differently, so... the tale of Prometheus is a good one for sure, but it's also much younger than the actual history of human control over fire.

Source: https://study.com/academy/lesson/how-did-stone-age-man-make-fire-discovery-importance-facts.html

[-] AceQuorthon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 months ago

Odin is cool af.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 16 points 2 months ago
[-] the_dopamine_fiend@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago
[-] Vanth@reddthat.com 13 points 2 months ago

I like the various mythologies for psychopomps; Anubis, Charon, grim reapers, Azrael, Vanth, valkyries, etc.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

psychopomps?

"Psychopomps (from the Greek word ψυχοπομπός, psychopompós, literally meaning the 'guide of souls')[1] are creatures, spirits, angels, demons, or deities in many religions whose responsibility is to escort newly deceased souls from Earth to the afterlife.[2]"

cool, thanks.

If you like psychopomps, you should play Spiritfarer, you get to be a psychopomp. and it's comforting.

[-] HamsterRage@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 months ago

Anubis and Thoth weighing the heart of the dead to see if it is as light as a feather before letting them into the afterlife.

I love the idea that there's no "do this, do that", or a concrete set of rules or commandments. But the idea that if you can look back on your life, and if your heart isn't weighed down with the burden of all of the things that you did that know we're just wrong...then you can go on to the afterlife.

It's just no much more of a reasonable, adult approach to morality.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

So, the guy who kicked a kitten at age three and still broods about it goes to hell, and the war criminal who feels justified for bombing civilians gets off scot free?

[-] HamsterRage@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

Actually...yes. At least for the "war criminal". I think the point is that you can't hide your inner feelings from the feather. So if you genuinely, in the deepest depths of your heart, have no qualms about bombing civilians then you're fine.

I think this points out the fundamental relativistic nature of morality and how the feather copes with it. Everyone has some sort of moral compass, and the feather measures how true you were to it. And really, what more can you ask of anyone? Decide, for yourself, what is right and what is wrong and stick to it.

Putting aside the fact that a toddler probably lacks the intellectual or emotional development to have a truely personal morality, I cannot imagine that someone who "broods" all their life over kicking a kitten when they were three is anything other than the nicest most moral person you'll ever meet. I don't think that have any trouble with Anubis and Thoth.

[-] mack7400@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Anub

I'd pick Anubis if I was a furry.

So...Anubis.

[-] dsilverz@thelemmy.club 11 points 2 months ago

Mainly, Lilit(h). Not mythological for me, although both Sumerian and Jewish Kabbalah are generally said as "mythological" by historical references.

I believe in a Goddess that extends beyond a single archetype, while I try to blend archetypes and concepts from various religions and "myths" in order to materialize my own understanding of existence and cosmos.

For me, She is Lilith/Lilit (the fearsome Sumerian Goddess of Winds as well as the Demoness and First Woman not banished from Eden as She fled on Her Will), She is Kali (the fearsome Hindu Goddess and Demoness of destruction and transformation), She is the Yin (the receptive Darkness complementing whilst opposing the Yang light) and the Tao (the wholeness and oneness), She is Al-Lat / Allatu (the Pre-Islam Arabic Goddess of War and Fertility), She is Isis and Bastet and Naunet (Egyptian Goddesses) She is Asherah (Hebrew Goddess consort/sister of Yahweh), She is Ereshkigal and Inanna (Sumerian Goddesses), She is Nuit and She is the Scarlet Woman (Thelemite Goddesses), She is Hekate (the Greek Goddess of Magic and Moon) and Aphrodite (the Greek Goddess of Love) and Athena (the Greek Goddess of Wisdom and Warfare) and Gaia (Goddess of Earth), She is Morana (Slavic personification of Death) and a feminine counterpart of Thanatos (Greek personification of Death as well), and so on, but mainly, Lilith Herself, as beautifully multifaceted as She is, both motherly nurturing and darkly reaping, neither good nor evil, just... Her nature.

I believe in a Sacred and Dark Feminine energy that's inside and outside everywhere, reaching scientific and philosophical concepts such as the entropy, the fields (as in electromagnetic field), the primordial soup from the beginning of earthly life, the quantum fluctuations, the apeiron, the Nietzschean Abyss. She's the shining Darkness, infinite nothingness, omnipresent wholeness and the cosmic Oneness.

In summary, the Dark Mother Goddess, often manifesting to me by Her Lilith's archetype.

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[-] Boozilla@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

The Demiurge. Not that I like the Demiurge itself. But explaining the human condition as being a product of bad design appeals to me. I don't believe the myth and I'm not religious. But as far as myths go, that one is my fave.

[-] tissek@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 months ago

Demeter is up there.

Her baby father (Zeus), aka the big douchebag, married away her daughter Persephone to his brother Hades. Patriarchy does what patriarchy does. The brothers were aware neither Persephone nor Demeter would approve of the deal so Hades had to kidnap Persephone and force the deal upon her.

So Persephone were abducted and her mother were beyond herself with worry about her absence. Once Demeter learnt about the deal she threw the hissy fit that all hissy fits are measured against. Plants stopped growing, livestock stopped giving birth and the world soon was in a cataclysmic state. Behold a mother's justified wrath and tremble.

Douchebag-in-chief was forced to negotiate but wouldn't anull the whole deal. Only that Persephone would spend half her time with her mother (spring, summer) and the other half with the husband forced upon her (autumn, winter).

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[-] fubo@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

I think Odyssey is a pretty cool guy. Eh trojans hores and doesnt afraid of anything.

[-] spittingimage@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Could you mean the book by Homer the poet, The Odyssey?

[-] rovingnothing29@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Well the Odyssey's MC and title character is Odysseus.

[-] daddy32@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Perun. Kinda like Thor, but without whoring for Marvel.

[-] illi@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

Axe is cooler than hammer as well.

[-] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago

Satan and Dionysus tie for first in my book.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
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[-] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago
[-] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago

Chill out there, Heimskr.

[-] PyroNeurosis 6 points 2 months ago
[-] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago

inb4: the God of the Abrahamic religions hurr durr

[-] wjrii@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Yeah, that asshole is nobody's favorite.

[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 months ago
[-] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago

Ah now that's a trick question, because the Abrahamic god is in fact an amalgam of both, which is why he's so derangedly bipolar in the Old Testament!

[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 months ago

Yeah. I think historically it is interesting, because the Hebrew Elohim of Genesis is in the plural, and there is evidence that followers of El believed him to be one deity in a pantheon. In that sense, Elohim and the associated creation myths have their roots in a polytheistic religion.

Yhwh was more likely a figure from a belief system of a different region which ended up co-opting the earlier stories. I know your comment was tongue-in-cheek, but I think it is actually plausible that things like the Catholic Holy Trinity have roots in El and Yhwh technically being different figures.

[-] ItDoBeHowItDoBe@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Interestingly enough, when Eelohim is used to refer to the Hebrew God in the bible, it takes singular verbs, while it take plural when referring to the gods of the nations surrounding them.

[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I wonder how much of that has to do with semantic drift on Elohim, i.e. by the time the oldest extant manuscripts were written, the figure was already considered singular despite retaining the noun plural morphology. The implication there would be that earlier (now lost) manuscripts may have had plural verb agreement for Elohim, or maybe simpler / more plausible, there was a time in the oral tradition where Elohim was still considered a plural figure and would have naturally gotten plural verbs.

I think the fact that the plural morphology exists on the noun at all suggests at least that the figure started as a collective.

Edit: probably also worth a mention that portions of Genesis (e.g. Garden of Eden) mirror portions of the Epic of Gilgamesh, a story which is overtly polytheistic.

[-] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

There are numerous names and in fact, there are sources which I cannot recall, that said his full name was like 24 letters long or something like that. Not surprising since he’s a hodgepodge of lots of prior mythos and was probably written of and modified over hundreds of years.

[-] sodalite@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 months ago
[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

You'd get to hang with a rat too.

[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 months ago

The Shintō sun goddess Amaterasu is quite interesting. As is the whole Shintō origin story.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wicked_%2B_The_Divine

the tl, dr is that every 90 years a dozen young people become reincarnations of various ancient gods from all over the world. Amaterasu is one of these.

Fun book and worth a look

[-] SassyRamen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Diomedes, he got eaten by horses, which sounds metal as fuck.

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

Ninshubur. Dude is badass.

[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago

Lord Enma (or Yama) rules over a pretty cool buddhist hell

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naraka_%28Buddhism%29

[-] mechoman444@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Ezekiel.

That guy want on a peyote trip in the middle of the desert and literally saw God.

[-] hitagi@ani.social 2 points 2 months ago
[-] emerald 2 points 2 months ago

The ghost of Christmas future

[-] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Eldad HaDaani (Eldad the Daanite). Not a major figure but he was like a classic bard in D&D. Told of his travels - which are referenced in songs made out of the literature talking about him. Said he had encountered a river that nobody knew where it was and is considered like lore (the Sambatyon). Anyway I always felt like it was a cool story. I never read all that much of him but growing up as Orthodox Jewish he’s mentioned in some things we sang and I always equated him as being a perfect Bard for a D&as campaign.

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