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submitted 2 months ago by FlyingSquid@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Hopefully the mods are okay with a little journalism about journalism so that people know where Politico stands in terms of being a trustworthy source.

The headline in question:

‘Next question’: Harris evades questions about her identity

The background to the headline is from Harris' recent CNN interview:

“I want to ask you about your opponent, Donald Trump,” Bash said to Harris. “I was a little bit surprised. People might be surprised to hear that you have never interacted with him, met him face-to-face. That’s gonna change soon. But what I wanna ask you about is what he said last month. He suggested that you ‘happened’ to turn Black recently for political purposes, questioning a core part of your identity.”

“Same old, tired playbook,” Harris replied. “Next question, please.”

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[-] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 163 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Honest question from a European: Do you guys still have journalism somewhere? It all seems to be political propaganda or outrage clickbait with you guys.

[-] protist@mander.xyz 144 points 2 months ago

Point of order from an American: Politico is a wholly owned subsidiary of German multinational Axel Springer.

[-] ceiphas@lemmy.world 74 points 2 months ago

Didn't know that (i'm German), but Springer ist known in Germany to outright lie to push rightwing agenda

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Better regulation in EU and Germany. And better freedom of speech too.
Many Americans confuse the right to lie with freedom of speech.

[-] paw@feddit.org 12 points 2 months ago

Touché (I'm German, btw)

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 94 points 2 months ago

Very little, but there is NPR, which generally attempts to do real journalism.

https://www.npr.org/

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 49 points 2 months ago
[-] protist@mander.xyz 34 points 2 months ago

ProPublica, PBS, and don't forget the Daily Show

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 36 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I wouldn't say the Daily Show does real journalism. They do make important stories public, but they have a clear slant both in terms of politics and in terms of making it funny.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Jon Stewart would agree. Not sure if Norm would, but probably.

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[-] Carrolade@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Mother Jones remains my favorite publication, I think.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago

Which is precisely why Musk has flagged it as possible misinformation on Xitter.

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[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 months ago

John Oliver

[-] FireTower@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Local affiliates and independent papers tend to be much better.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 39 points 2 months ago

Until they get bought up by Sinclair or Gannett.

[-] hemmes@lemmy.world 37 points 2 months ago

This is extremely dangerous to our democracy

[-] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 months ago

"This is dangerous to our democracy."

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[-] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

There are a lot of 'content creators' that pose as journalists.

There are journalists that do great work but since their stories can run counter to a narrative, it can be more difficult to find those articles.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 months ago

Specifically, "Good Work" and "Some More News" spring to mind as producing well researched pieces - they're both highly specialized and only deliver occasional focused news rather than a continuous spread of general goings-on... but given how many outlets are happy to spam low quality continuous bullshit I consider that a good thing.

[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 months ago

This is the culmination of unchecked capitalism having full control of the media. The truth hasn’t mattered for a really long time – only which words are most profitable.

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[-] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 115 points 2 months ago

Multi race people are use to this shit. We are denied one race or another. If you don't look how people expect you will receive racist shit about both races, really fun.

I have many issues with Harris, but I'm glad she is exposing this shit. I'm tired of closet and undercover racists.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 55 points 2 months ago

It's amazing how many of them feel emboldened to come out of the woodwork now. It's because they're a bunch of 30- and 40-somethings who grew up and/or spent their on 4Chan and never left that mindset.

[-] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 42 points 2 months ago

You would be surprised how many whisper at work and get upset when you expose them. I love doing it. I'm the undercover brother.

[-] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Keep up the good work

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[-] Carrolade@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Adam Connover did a really good interview of Elle Reeve going into this, with a particular focus on JD Vance:

https://youtu.be/3cpwJ7o0o6c

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[-] ThirdWorldOrder@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 months ago

I’m not biracial but I am a dual citizen. When I lived in Canada I was called a yankee and when I moved to the USA I was called a Canuck. Can’t win lol.

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[-] Euphorazine@lemmy.world 103 points 2 months ago

so that people know where Politico stands in terms of being a trustworthy source

I just assume all media actually want a Trump victory, because they get money writing articles and the money was good his first term. If Trump is good at anything, it's making headlines.

[-] brianary@startrek.website 110 points 2 months ago
[-] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago

Trump gives tax cuts to the rich. Rich people own the media. This has always been true, but with the extreme increase in inequality, it’s never been worse. There’s no longer a liberal media.

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[-] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 70 points 2 months ago

Keep in mind race is very important to conservatives. VERY IMPORTANT. to them, once an association is made ... It can not be changed. And you can't be 2 races at once. its very important to them and they have lots of rules about it.

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[-] elrik@lemmy.world 66 points 2 months ago

Bash said: "But what I wanna ask you about is what he said last month. He suggested that you ‘happened’ to turn Black recently for political purposes, questioning a core part of your identity.”

Where was the question? That's simply a statement about what Trump said.

Politico's headline is outrageous, but what was Bash even trying to do here? Because it reads like she was trying to ask (without asking) if Harris is black, which is just as weird and absurd as Trump's original comment.

Harris's reply is great because it applies both to Trump's racism and the problem with journalists giving these comments anything more than ridicule.

[-] cybervseas@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago

Where was the question? That’s simply a statement about what Trump said.

All of Dana Bash's questions were just Donald Trump talking points.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 62 points 2 months ago

How is plainly calling it out as the bullshit that it is "evasion?" That headline isn't just misleading; it's a straight-up lie.

[-] ultranaut@lemmy.world 57 points 2 months ago

Acting like there's any legitimate questions about Harris being a black person is inherently racist and doing the bidding of Trump. I didn't think very highly of Politico before this but unless they fire whoever wrote that headline they are dead to me now.

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 9 points 2 months ago

I love it. Only one party is talking about race and furious about it.

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[-] Mim@lemmy.zip 45 points 2 months ago

Axel Springer bought Politico a while ago. In other words: it's utter shit and absolutely useless for any actual reporting. But great if you want to peddle some reactionary bullshit.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 44 points 2 months ago

Headline is still up on their front page even:

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/30/harris-cnn-interview-race-gender-00176929

"Harris sidesteps the spotlight when it comes to her identity

The vice president makes her case on identity implicit. Black women are OK with that."

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 months ago

If I ever see a question like that posed to a white politician I will accept it as valid. Otherwise it's just more dumb racist shit.

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[-] BigBenis@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago

These corporate media companies are all the same and are a blight upon our society.

[-] kikutwo@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago

She should have asked Bash when he happened to turn orange. He used to be white.

[-] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Journalism was already in a death spiral but this type of article just highlights it.

They're just taking a secondary source with a shitty headline, cherry picking spicy reactions on Twitter and then writing another shitty headline.

I could theoretically do the same thing, cherrypick Twitter and then post the following "article" to my own shit-tier political news blog:

"Mediaite panned for misleading headline about headlines."

The only "sources" I have to cite are random Tweets that I preselected because they already agreed with my point of view.

We are approaching something that is close to the opposite of journalism.

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[-] QuiteQuickQum@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

The headline is, “Harris sidesteps spotlight when it comes to her identity.”

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 10 points 2 months ago

the tweet Politico sent to promote it was incredibly misleading and stated Harris had dodged a question about herself.

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