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[-] dogsnest@lemmy.world 168 points 2 months ago
[-] solidgrue@lemmy.world 112 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That reminds me of an old joke.

A traitor, a rapist and a convicted felon walk into the bar, and the bartender says, "Good Evening, Mr. Trump!"

[-] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 40 points 2 months ago

What's funny about that is that trump doesn't drink. Which is odd, because he acts like he's pickled half the time.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 27 points 2 months ago

From media reports he abstains from alcohol because his brother died of alcoholism. That hasn't stopped him from promoting Trump vodka.

[-] me66@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago

I think him not drinking is the only reason we are exposed to him at all. If he was a drinker, he would be a raging alcoholic, unable to even stand up.

[-] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 15 points 2 months ago

Him not drinking is unironically probably the only reason he's still alive despite his lifestyle and diet.

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[-] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 85 points 2 months ago

"Trump isn’t losing because Kamala Harris is being hyped by the press and fluffed up to kingdom come. He isn’t losing because the press is being unfair to him. He’s losing because he’s a weak, unpopular, undisciplined candidate running at the head of a weak, minority electoral coalition. That’s the truth, whether anyone wants to hear it or not," Wright concluded.

Damn. The National Review is not pulling its punches on Trump.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 58 points 2 months ago

Yes they are. They forgot to call him a rapist, felon, traitor, and wanna-be dictator.

[-] paf0@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

All of that can be unfortunately explained away by MAGA. This hits them in the only place they care about, the ballot box.

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[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 70 points 2 months ago

I’ll just leave this here

[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 10 points 2 months ago
[-] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago
[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 7 points 2 months ago

"Presidential Circles of Suck"

Presidents that sucked. So how did Carter suck? Losing his second term means he sucks? No.

So again, how does Carter suck?

[-] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

Is this bait? Like, are you trolling? Because I didn't make the chart. You clearly understand the chart. You just want to start a fight over the title of the chart? It's a silly name for a funny chart. Calm down bruv.

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[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

It's saying he was voted out of office.

[-] nifty@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Platform wise some of them are republican as we know them now even if their circles are blue. I think Clinton and Carter are what we’d consider current democrats

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

The "Lost popular vote" angle is only going to get worse over time. As the Senate/EC gets more and more comically lopsided in popular representation and climate change eats into the bigger Gulf Coast states, you're going to see people winning the White House with 10-15M popular vote deficits in the next few decades.

California alone constitutes more than 12% of the total population but less than 10% of the EC.

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[-] magnetosphere@fedia.io 68 points 2 months ago

"Trump's weakness only remained hidden for much of this year because…

Only for “much of this year”? Are you kidding me?

His many, many flaws were/are invisible to his selectively blind cult members. Those people were, however, loud and obnoxious enough to force their opinion on the weak Republican Party, and the party was too ineffectual to come up with an alternative. Boo fucking hoo.

[-] Kushan@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

His flaws aren't invisible to his cult members, they're why they follow him in the first place.

If He can a be racist, bigoted piece of shit that can do no wrong then they can be racist, bigoted pieces of shit that can do no wrong.

His sexism justifies their sexism. His constant grifting justifies their constant grifting.

But above all else, in my humble opinion, is that he's an absolute fucking moron that likes to think he's the smartest person in the room. And when you're an absolute fucking moron that doesn't understand how pronouns work or why masks were important or anything like that, well that's okay because actually you know better because you're smart, you're the smartest guy in the room, you know better than all those experts, just like Trump.

[-] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

The fact that the party was basically forced to run him again just tells me that the republicans are in big trouble after Trump leaves. Their voter base is declining and they don’t have another populist to take his place.

So their options after this are either to try and get another populist and push trash candidates over the line, which won’t work. Or they can do the right thing and give up on their social positions against minorities and abortion. The outcome of the first option is they lose a lot of elections, the outcome of the second option of changing positions is to split the party. I just don’t know how they move forward when Trump loses.

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[-] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 62 points 2 months ago

Bad candidate, bad businessman, bad father, bad husband ... it's almost impressive how much he sucks.

[-] linearchaos@lemmy.world 41 points 2 months ago

And still at 47% polls.

This country has some serious shit wrong with it

[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

this is the most confusing thing to me, why are so many people still voting for him?

i swear the RNC could run a fucking rock they found on the road as a candidate and it would get 40% of the votes.

[-] KaTaRaNaGa@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

I imagine for some of those folks being a part of a group that demands nothing other than your agreement is better than belonging to a group demanding a truthful relationship to the facts and their impact.

[-] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

When reading your list my mind went to 'bad cellmate' and I suddenly realized that if Trump were ever convicted, he would have a cell mate. Can you imagine the sheer horror at finding out you would be spending years locked in a cage with Trump?

[-] bamboo 14 points 2 months ago

Trump has been convicted, 34 times, actually. Will he go to prison is the question. If he does, I doubt he'd have a cellmate. He'll probably be in a Four Seasons version of prison.

[-] HWK_290@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Four Seasons Total Landscaping and Minimum Security Prison (TM)

[-] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Can you imagine the sheer horror at finding out you would be spending years locked in a cage with Trump?

Oh, it wouldn't be years. I'll take the extra time in exchange for some peace and quiet.

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[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 57 points 2 months ago

"The GOP electoral coalition is the smaller, weaker coalition. It’s lost the popular vote seven out of nine times in my lifetime (I’m 36). It has lost the Electoral College three out of the last four cycles. Conservatives might not be very eager to hear this, but 'We the People' are mostly Democrats," Wright continued.

So much for calling themselves the Silent Majority.

Of course they can still win, the way they are looking at now is to cheat!

[-] Commiunism@lemmy.wtf 38 points 2 months ago

I don't think this is a good thing. While the current form of conservatism was kind of started by Trump via whatever horrible things he was saying, it's a pandora's box that was opened and will probably never be closed again as long as there's an audience to the talking points. If Trump were to become effectively disowned by conservatives, they're likely going to replace him with someone even worse (someone like Mike Johnson or any other christian fundamentalist) which is the true horror.

Also remember - all this talk from conservatives about Trump being a "bad candidate" is not because his policies or project 2025 are bad, it's only because he's no longer that popular.

[-] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

But I feel like Trump has both narcissism and charisma which make people believe what he says.

If Johnson had to take over, he'd spit lies and christofascist stuff but I doubt people would see him as "our new Jesus" as MAGA people see Trump. Idk if I explained myself clearly

[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago

Hahaha, yeah let them try.

The thing is, trump was a unique breed of asshole, he has no shame, he said the quiet part out loud because there was no doubt in his mind that he is doing something wrong.

GOP has never had an alternative to that, it’s actually why he became president. He brought a useful energy that no one else could produce.

It’s just how cults of personality work, they die with the figurehead until someone else could match or surpass that energy.

[-] orcrist@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

It's not quite that simple, though. Trump took control of the party, and the people who were in control before him or who wish they were in control now, those people might not be happy with their loss of personal power.

They also know, as we know, that being overtly racist and sexist is probably not going to win the hearts of the majority of Americans. In the past and today, many conservative candidates have pushed racist and sexist policies but they've been less conspicuous about doing so, and that let them maintain some semblance of decency to some percent of the voting population. With Trump or anyone of his style at the helm, it's much harder for people to deny the horror.

Finally, it's certainly true that many conservative politicians don't agree with some aspects of Project 2025. The problem they have had in the Trump cult era is that they didn't dare say anything that would go against their fearless leader.

Having written all of that, Republicans who are only finally speaking out now are showing us that they prioritized personal political survival over everything else, and I don't have much respect for that.

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"Is Harris an ideal candidate? Is she an incredibly talented orator? Is she deft on her feet and nimble in debate? Is she a famous wonk? Does she have a long track record of competence at the state and federal level? Has she been scrutinized by a tough no-nonsense press and come out stronger on the other side?" wrote Wright. "No, of course not — but she’s an alternative to Trump/Biden, and that’s probably going to be enough."

Hard disagree.

  1. Probably. 2. Yes. 3. Yes. 4. Yes, but I wouldn't consider her famous for it. 5. Yes. 6. We'd have to have a no-nonsense press before I could answer that. 7. Yes, but she's much more.
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[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 months ago

"Republican Party is a minority coalition that picked a very unpopular 78-year-old retread as its candidate"

Is it possible to read this and not read as "retard"? I cant for the life of me.

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[-] Sho@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago
[-] luciferofastora@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

May the moderate Democracts become the right end of the Window, so that actually progressive parties can spring up on their left wing.

[-] nifty@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The GOP electoral coalition is the smaller, weaker coalition. It’s lost the popular vote seven out of nine times in my lifetime (I’m 36). It has lost the Electoral College three out of the last four cycles. Conservatives might not be very eager to hear this, but 'We the People' are mostly Democrats," Wright continued.

So you’re saying, the republicans are a minority. So maybe they need some inclusion and equity so people can appreciate the diverse opinion they bring to the table. So basically, conservatives and republicans need DEI 🤔

All that remains, he said, is for Republicans to "stop whining" and try to create a stronger coalition — which so far there is no indication they are trying to do.

And how will they do that? Hint, joining with Nazis or white supremacists isn’t necessary. The commoners want more than bread and circuses, and blood or bloodlust is a poor substitute. Conservatism as a platform needs to become less disingenuous and hypocritical. The republicans are the party of the oligarchs, and by definition that will always fail a democracy.

[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 months ago

Even Fox News is hanging up on him when gets ranting during his regular Fox and Friends morning call.

[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

I think the Conservatives had little choice left. The extreme forces in this party without any values have been on the rise since at least the Tea Party movement. Even then, they decided to focus on extremism, racism and pretty much every other "ism" there is - just because this made it possible to hide their actual political agenda behind that, which is - of course - exclusively in the interests of a wealthy minority. Trump is simply the consequence of that decision. Since his presidency, he has managed to take over that party completely. While doing so it surely has played into his hands that the conservatives are so spineless and power-oriented that there was hardly anyone to counter Trump. Now he has already filled all the key positions with family members or minions who are dependent on him. I don't think that there is a GOP anymore; just the Trump cult that's left of it. The good thing about all this: If Trump loses the election, the GOP is probably finished.

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[-] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Picked two bad candidates.

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[-] exanime@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Bad candidates, bad policies, bad justifications, bad faith... The list goes on

[-] dudinax@programming.dev 6 points 2 months ago

He's not even legally allowed to hold office.

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

He is able to be elected president again, as (for better or worse) being a convicted felon is not one of the disqualifying criteria for that office.

Several US states invoked the 14th Amendment as grounds to disqualify him, but the Republican-controlled Supreme Court ruled earlier this year that only the US Congress has the authority to make that determination. Which, divided as Congress is right now, could never happen.

[-] dudinax@programming.dev 5 points 2 months ago

It's an incorrect ruling. States have always been the judges of legal qualification for office.

Congress has it's own method to disqualify someone: impeachment.

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