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submitted 2 months ago by TwiddleTwaddle to c/libertyhub

Alt text: a destroyed city filled with speach bubbles all saying "stop your bombs" and Kamala Harris in the foreground with "I'm speaking" in large text along the bottom.

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[-] lengau@midwest.social 46 points 2 months ago
[-] TwiddleTwaddle 38 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

"I'm speaking" are literally her words in refence to pro-palestinian protesters chanting at one of her rallies like 2 days ago.

Edit: her campaign has at no point expressed a desire (let alone a demand) to end arms shipments and military aid to Israel. Nor has she expressed at any point that she intends to demand an immediate ceasefire if elected.

Edit2: clarification

[-] Mountain_Mike_420@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 months ago

Yes this is such a disappointment. All we want to hear is her calling and pledging for the stopping of genocide of the Palestine people.

[-] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Continuation of support for genocide.

[-] kittenzrulz123 8 points 2 months ago

Nice Liberal nonsense but it seems you forgot this community is for leftists

[-] lengau@midwest.social 13 points 2 months ago

There's nothing worse for leftism than leftists making bad arguments.

[-] kittenzrulz123 7 points 2 months ago

Calling for the end of genocide is a bad argument? Ok Liberal

[-] lengau@midwest.social 13 points 2 months ago

Putting words into people's mouths, as you just did, and strawmanning, as the original meme does, are both bad arguments.

Opposing genocide is a good position. Let's not weaken our good positions with bad arguments.

[-] TwiddleTwaddle 6 points 2 months ago

Kamela Harris told pro-palestinian protesters at her own rally "I'm speaking" to silence them. This is a fact and not a strawman argument. If you want your comments to not be removed from this community for supporting genocidal entities, you'll need to explain where the strawman is in the OP meme.

[-] TwiddleTwaddle 6 points 2 months ago

Please, point out the strawman here. I responded already that "I'm speaking" were Kamela's exact words in response to recent pro-palestine protesters.

[-] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 11 points 2 months ago

The moral of this story is don't stop protesting. Some liberals are easing up on the Israel/Palestine issue because they believe Kamala will get a ceasefire on favorable terms, but she remains aligned with the status quo and will compromise heavily if she is not pressured by a large constituency on the left. Kamala is more movable on the issue than Biden and that means we need to keep pushing her on it.

There was a more recent rally where she seems to have learned from this mistake and dedicated some time to acknowledging the protestors and calling for a ceasefire before continuing her speech. I think this shows that unlike Biden she sees the protestors as being worth appealing to, and they need to respond to that by making their demands clear and actionable.

[-] RacoonVegetable@reddthat.com 10 points 2 months ago

I love lemmy for being able to easily block this sort of stuff

[-] kittenzrulz123 10 points 2 months ago

Bye bye Liberal :3

[-] Ranger 8 points 2 months ago

But who would kill the children? /s

[-] andrewth09@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago
[-] TrippyFocus@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago

Almost like people should read the community rules before commenting?

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