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As the vice president introduced her new running mate at an energetic rally in Philadelphia, he quickly demonstrated his ability to deliver searing attacks against Donald Trump and JD Vance.

America’s introduction to Gov. Tim Walz of Minnesota began with a half-hour of cheering for Vice President Kamala Harris and ended with some of the sharpest attacks Democrats have leveled against former President Donald J. Trump and his running mate, Senator JD Vance of Ohio.

Before a raucous crowd in Philadelphia, Ms. Harris and Mr. Walz presented the Minnesotan as a folksy former schoolteacher and football coach who had inspired his students, served in the military and improved his constituents’ lives.

But it was his ability to deliver searing yet accessible attacks against their Republican opponents that won Mr. Walz a place on the national ticket, and during his first rally, he did not miss his marks.

“Donald Trump sees the world a little differently than us,” he said. “First of all, he doesn’t know the first thing about service. He doesn’t have time for it because he’s too busy serving himself.”

Then came the dagger. “Violent crime was up under Donald Trump,” he said, before pausing for effect. “That’s not even counting the crimes he committed.”

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[-] snooggums@midwest.social 182 points 2 months ago

About time the Dems had some charismatic candidates who are willing to push back against the bullying of Republicans instead of taking the high road.

[-] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 43 points 2 months ago

Thank God. Finally sounds like they believe in themselves which gives other people a reason to believe in them. Finally fighting.

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[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 months ago

I think a lot of things started to go wrong right after Hilary said "When they go low, we go high".

Back then they were labouring under the assumption that the Republican Party (and voters) actually had a sense of shame; that if you stick to the "political" fights rather than throwing some shade, you'll eventually come out on top.

Now they (finally) know better. You gotta throw some shade in with that policy, and if you can make the shade humorous, all the better. Because the only thing Trump cares about is being seen as 'strong', and that's why this whole 'weird' thing is working as well as it has.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 14 points 2 months ago

It was Michelle Obama who coined that, but you're right otherwise.

[-] snooggums@midwest.social 8 points 2 months ago

Now they (finally) know better.

I kind of doubt Clinton and Biden approve of this shift and still think taking the high road is the right way. Biden is still taking the high road!

[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago

And that's why they lost; and would have lost again.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 5 points 2 months ago

Wonder if there were a bunch of strategists who have been cooking this strategy for a few cycles already, but they were never allowed to unleash it.

[-] ExtravagantEnzyme@lemm.ee 24 points 2 months ago

Basically couldn't have come any later really. They're already coming out the gates scrabbling with just 3 months and change until voting starts.

[-] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 93 points 2 months ago

Only having them campaign for a few months is refreshing. I'd love to see it happen more often.

[-] teamevil@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Plus it minimized fascist election fuckery...it's not zero and we need people watching electors that think they can lie... Trying to subvert the will of the voters should be considered treason and treated as such legally.

[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 months ago

America is one of the only countries with such a long election cycle. Up here in Canada it's much shorter thankfully. Get it over with and let people get on with their lives.

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[-] niucllos@lemm.ee 51 points 2 months ago

Not that I ascribe this to strategy, but I wonder if this will work in their favor. The last minute change of jockey has been dominating the news since it happened, and pushing Trump's ridiculous things to the side. This ticket will have huge and new name recognition in voters' minds, and a lot less time to get mud to stick

[-] modifier@lemmy.ca 44 points 2 months ago

I think it will definitely work in their favor, and I hope it kicks off a trend towards a shorter election season, but the corporate media will resist that.

[-] modifier@lemmy.ca 111 points 2 months ago

I can't stop thinking about how ingenius the couch joke is. The reference is obvious if you know the meme but oblique enough to maintain plausible deniability, but it doesn't matter because guess what, Republicans can't even complain about this without giving further airtime to the ridiculous meme itself. It is a serrated takedown.

[-] Enfors@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago

I'm out of the loop on that one. Can you explain it to those of us who missed it, please?

[-] vxx@lemmy.world 57 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The Internet is memeing about Vance being a couch fucker. He tried to refute it by saying he never had sex with a couch to completion, which obviously was a self own.

Walz said yesterday that he's happy to debate Vance, if Vance can get his ass off the couch.

[-] Argurotoxus@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago

Just so you're aware that refutation was also spoofed.

Whole situation remains funny af though. And Walz is adept at twisting the knife.

[-] vxx@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

Man, it's tough to tell what is real these days.

[-] Enfors@lemm.ee 25 points 2 months ago

he never had sex with a couch to completion

Uhmmm... what? Why would he say that? Was there actually some truth to the claim that he had sex with a couch, or what?

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

None. He just did a really bad job refuting it. Honestly, it's such a goofy meme that most adults would just ignore it, but these are Republicans we're talking about. It's incredibly easy to distract them with frivolous stuff.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Even better, there was some website explaining and refuting it all, but then it was taken down lol.

[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Even better it was the bastion of objective Journalism the Associated Press (AP). They took it down because they can't prove he didn't fuck a couch.

Edit - I love this because it's the same as the old "Did Glenn Beck rape and murder a girl in 1990?". He's never come out to say he didn't.

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

That's because Beck, while being a faux emotional cryptofascist shit bird, wasn't a fucking moron and knew that the only way to stop someone JAQing off is to ignore them. Only partially because JAQing off was his primary MO.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Did Glenn Beck rape and murder a girl in 1990?".

Were just asking questions!

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[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 41 points 2 months ago

i wonder if he has a license to throw those haymakers.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

He does. It's a license to thrill.

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 41 points 2 months ago

I was gonna say I wish she'd chosen someone younger since she herself is much younger than Trump or Biden and that's a decent selling point in the current state of affairs

And then I looked it up and he's only a year older than her. The passage of time really hasn't affected them equally.

[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago

Walz became the nation's Dad as he entered the national political stage. When I think of all the lions that came from that part of the country, he is definitely on the list.

[-] ceenote@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago

It's a shame he's a teetotaler now, he has the highest "I could have a beer with him" score of any candidate I've ever seen.

[-] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago

He can just be the "I could have a root beer with him" candidate then.

[-] m0darn@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 months ago

Yeah. Actually he seems like he'd be totally okay with you having a beer

[-] ech@lemm.ee 41 points 2 months ago

Learn to hang out with people without alcohol involved instead of treating their choice to not drink as a problem.

[-] ceenote@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It was a reference to the type of appeal that the media made a big deal about George W. Bush having. Learn to let a joke go by without seizing the opportunity to talk down to someone.

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[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

I'd have a nonalcoholic beer with him any time!

They actually make a lot of REALLY tasty ones now, which makes my life as a beer-loving ex-drinker a LOT easier when there's a football game on, for example 😁

[-] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

Ooh, what's your favorites? I'm not a teetotaler, but I don't sleep as well after drinking so most of the time I'd rather just have an NA beer. I've never been a fan of IPAs, unfortunately, so I'm pretty meh on most of Athletic's offerings. My favorite is from a local brewery (Bauhaus Brew Labs) called Nah, it's a non alcoholic Helles.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I'm not a fan of overly hoppy beers (of which IPAs are the worst by definition) either heh.

I can't recommend the nonalcoholic versions of Leffe Blonde or Brune highly enough!

They taste exactly like the "normal" version, which is high praise if you ask me. So if you like Belgian Trappist style beer and don't want the alcohol, those are definitely the way to go IMO.

If you're more into a refreshing wheat beer, the Kronenbourg 1664 Blanc 0.0% will do you well too, my absolute favorite for a hot summer day!

If you just want a regular pilsner that doesn't cost too much but is still hella tasty, my favorite "daily driver" is Bavaria nonalcoholic.

I hope any or all of these are available in your area and to your taste!

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[-] ReCursing@lemmings.world 6 points 2 months ago

I tend to find nonalcoholic beers taste a bit... thin. I tend to go for a bitter (I'm British, there's a load of really good traditional regional bitters about) rather than an IPA or wheatbeer, or anything else. Do you find that and just don't mind or am I just drinking the wrong things?

(I'm not tee total, I just don't drink much cos I'm usually driving)

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Some cheap ones are, sure, but a good nonalcoholic beer tastes like a good beer WITH alcohol does. I haven't tried one myself yet as they aren't in stores here, but apparently a Guinness 0.0 tastes exactly like the classic alcoholic stout.

As for bitters specifically, duckduckgo keeps giving me cocktail bitters even when I limit my search to the UK and specify "English Bitter" "best bitter" or "bitter beer" 🤦

[-] ReCursing@lemmings.world 3 points 2 months ago

I'll take another look then. Thanks.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

No problem 🙂

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[-] Rakonat@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

I'd have rated Al Franken higher but he's pretty much left politics for good at this point.

[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 months ago

He runs a weekly political podcast at least

[-] Mountain_Mike_420@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 months ago

Super stoked, and everything I am reading and seeing of him only makes me more excited.

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[-] Corigan@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

Ms. Harris? Last time I checked shes married...

[-] lemmeout@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago

Ms is not Miss

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