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U.S. Inauguration Day in 2009 (Left) and 2017 (Right)
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Images like this show why it's so important to vote
No, no, no… The orange man has assured me that it was the biggest crowd of all time. Probably more people than had ever been in one place at the same time. And he surely wouldn’t lie to me.
Don’t worry he wasn’t lying to you, he was just presenting alternative facts .
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Voting Vs "My vote doesn't matter anyways." or "They're all the same anyways."
And for those of you who are in a similar situation as me, where your presidential vote for the most part doesn't matter (Trump's going to win by a minimum of 15 points in my state), your votes on down ballot issues do matter.
Local and state elections are where change starts. So get out there and vote, even if it's mostly doing harm reduction.
The same is true for blue states.
If your vote is not important because your state is locked in on a presidential candidate, local issues / candidates are worth voting on. They can have a more direct impact on your day to day.
I'm gonna piggyback on this to make a related point:
If you take it down from +15 points to +14 points, that's gonna cost the GOP more money next time around. You don't have to win your state to make an impact. If you can make it more expensive to win your state, that takes funds away from their campaigns in other states.
(And if you make it cheaper for Democrats to win your state, that frees up funds for campaigns in other states.)
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Now imagine how big the crowd would be for Harris!
Or don't.
Because until 2017, nobody gave a crap about the size of the crowd. Normal Presidents have had more important things to think about in their first 100 days in office.
I only care because I know it pisses Trump off.
2021 had very few people because of corona.
2021 had very few people because of corona
Just another day of Biden supporters repeating claims trump supporters used to make.
Biden didn't get elected because people wanted him to be president, he got elected because in the general he was the only option not named trump.
Expecting him to draw a crowd like 08 Obama is just ridiculous
They actively discouraged people from coming because of corona. That's why it isn't comparable.
Also it was weeks after January 6th, security was high and I'm sure everyone who was there was on edge imagining a crazy MAGA supporter with a gun or a bomb.
Man if only there was some word for using violence to instill fear in political opponents.
Oh well.
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yeah without corona I have no doubt he would have atracted as many as obama but it would be a crowd just so happy its not trump anymore.
But even without that stuff, Biden never had what Obama had in 08.
People travelled from all over, it was a huge deal and people were literally celebrating in the streets nationwide.
Some of that was because we getting rid of GW, but most of it was excitement about Obama.
In 2020 there wasn't excitement from anyone, just relief.
OK... Nobody claimed he would have anything like what Obama had.
But the biggest factor for turnout was still covid.
It's weird that you're turning this into some sort of "man look at blue maga here!" thing.
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Never get involved in a land war in Asia
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Never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line
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Never get into a dick-measuring contest with Barack Obama.
To be fair, in 2008 Obama and Hillary Clinton were viable candidates (despite not being a white Christian rich man) because the US public was really tired of Republican shennanigans, and of the Bush administration specifically. While McCain seemed reasonable Sarah Palin was scary and the McCain campaign took its cues from the ur-Maga Karl Rove / Tea-Party Republican talking points, who were only onto public benefits if no-one else got them.
Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize for simply not being ~~Trump~~ Bush and admitted as much it was rather silly when he promised to work to rise to the level of deserving it.
Sadly, Obama retained a lot of Bush policies and was more neoliberal than we needed.
I really thought after Bush, we'd never vote for a Republican president again, nor would we allow one to win by the EC. I was wrong and the US paid for it dearly. So I'm really sore and bitter about the whole affair.
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Here's Obama's from SPAAAAAAAACE
https://content.satimagingcorp.com/static/galleryimages/geoeye-1-obama-inauguration-2009.jpg
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Surprised at how ugly the area is.
It's prettier in the spring and summer
Why not have election in spring then?
“How pretty the natural landscape is” isn’t typically a requirement when planning elections.
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harris's will be more packed than obama's
I mean, I watched bush's inauguration as a kid, and was stoked for Obama's having voted in my first presidential election.
Purely based on "middle aged white guy=mid numbers" and "first black president=large numbers" I feel that "first Woman, and second POC" will mean bigly numbers.
If it's not, I'll be amazed.
I was pretty sure it was gonna be a shit show as soon as the election results came in, but the fact the dumbass lied so obviously and pathetically only hours into his term really ironed in how fucked the next four years were gonna be.
I was one of those idiots going back and watching old Trump interviews and thinking, “Well, see, this dude can’t be the total idiot he’s putting on display today. Maybe he’s playing some crazy game and he won’t be as bad as he looks like he’s going to be.”
That lie made it clear to me that my stupid theory was no good. He won, there was no point in playing a character.
He got fame and attention for being exactly what he is. He doesn’t need to be anything else.
I was at George W.'s inauguration with a school group, and it wasn't as packed as Obama's but it blew Trump's out of the water, and it was cold and windy AF.
I was at George W.'s inauguration
Washington? Wow.
**Reminds me of Spicy’s first presser…. His tone and attitude had me immediately realize the next 4 years would be rough…
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OP sjmarf, I tried to feel you out a bit, hard to get a read on your age based on your comment history. But I gather you live in the UK. Idk if you've always lived there, or immigrated.
I was a younger American at the time of 2009 Inauguration, but I can tell you the general feeling in the air that day: fucking excitement. It was truly electric; whether you were for or against Obama, you're just kind of forced to take a few steps back & go... Wow. America has officially elected a black President. It was unprecedented, it was almost kind of strange because you've got people always screaming about how racist America can be. But there we were. Obama was handsome. Charismatic. Hell, if I were in town, I probably would have been there, too. Just for the sheer spectacle of it all & witnessing history unfold.
Going from that to another white (/orange) man taking the office, kinda old hat, kinda business as usual. I'm telling you, there's simply no honest way to compare the two events.
I also want to take a moment & say thank you for your content creation & possibly upkeep on the Lemmy platform. I had to filter out your posts, there's so much material you've contributed. Thanks. 👍🏻
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Was that photo taken at the very peak of impeached ex-president’s crowd?
Course, even if it was, we’re still comparing apples…
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Sean Spicer needing to defend Trump's absurd claim about attendance to keep his job was delightful TV.
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Obviously, all the people on the right wearing camouflage. That's why we can't see them. /s
When people get into large, really really large, crowds, I can't help but see them as a horde of bugs.
The biggest crowds, the best crowds 🤌
The trees are being generous in the second photo
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