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[-] ChocoboRocket@lemmy.world 200 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Americans actually do shoot quite well, but the rules around gun handling are incredibly strict for Olympic shooting.

Things like minor celebrations, emotion, or even the cadence of your walk while leaving the range can cause disqualification.

Since American shooters can't hit a bullseye without shotgunning a beer and magdumping into the sky as eagles carry exploding fireworks in celebration, they often do not place in Olympic shooting

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 67 points 3 months ago

"I can tolerate precision shooting, but I draw the line at emotional regulation!"

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 55 points 3 months ago

Or in other words, what's missing from our country's gun use is respect.

The vast majority of our issues with gun violence is the fact that we disrespect guns almost as much as each other, they're just another crass tool for achieving a feeling, like power, masculinity, reassurance and comfort. So then guess what happens when you flood the streets with more guns than every other developed nation combined?

We are a nation of undisciplined shooters, they may shoot "quite well" in some cases, but for every shooter who does quite well at hitting a target you have several thousand who have no idea how to shoot, AND have no clue about gun safety, respect and responsible ownership.

[-] xantoxis@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago

Well, sure, but you don't send a random selection of citizens to the Olympics. You send the best.

The nation with the most gun owners per capita and a huge population should have many pinnacle-tier shooters, even if it also has many bad ones. So the question is, why aren't they at the Olympics?

[-] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

Honestly? Opportunity. It starts with money, or willingness for you or your parents to give up everything that isn't training.

I was in the service with some incredible shots. I've been on the range with some pretty incredible shots. Most of them would never have the opportunity for any number of reasons.

Some of that comes down to simply money. Flavor Flav is sponsoring our women's water polo team because some of them were working three jobs while training to stay afloat. Not everyone wants to or even can do that.

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[-] JohnOliver@feddit.dk 136 points 3 months ago

The real reason

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 98 points 3 months ago

In fairness, you see that chick from South Korea?

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 33 points 3 months ago

I will never have that kind of swagger

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago

I definitely would not want to be the guy who tried to mug her.

[-] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 23 points 3 months ago

Remember that in modern countries she wouldn't be allowed to carry that

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[-] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 20 points 3 months ago

That grip on that thing is crazy.

[-] nomous@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

It looks like they took a wooden block and CNC'd her hand shape into it and nothing else. I'd like to see it from the other side.

[-] theatomictruth@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

Something like this

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

she looks like an arena shooter character.

i bet she can go partially invisible for 20 seconds with a cooldown of 7 and throws mad stun bombs

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[-] dogsoahC@lemm.ee 90 points 3 months ago

You don't gotta aim to bit a crowd of kids at a school.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 34 points 3 months ago
[-] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago

Shots and prayers 🙏

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 18 points 3 months ago

That's what an extended mag is for ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ

[-] Xtallll 70 points 3 months ago

Sometimes classroom training doesn't translate.

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 58 points 3 months ago

Sucks that there are no schoo children and black people available as targets.

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[-] pyre@lemmy.world 56 points 3 months ago

mfw the shooting venue wasn't a school

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[-] p3n@lemmy.world 54 points 3 months ago

Not to take anything anyway from the Olympic athletes who are incredibly talented at their sport, but their sport doesn't resemble the practical shooting of real guns.

There are actual competitons for that, such as the International Practical Shooting Confederation (IPSC) world shoots. The U.S. is much better represented in these: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPSC_Handgun_World_Shoots

[-] wolfshadowheart@leminal.space 55 points 3 months ago

Classic Americans, making up our own rules and sucking at following the rest of the world lol

[-] ObsidianZed@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago

True but it looks like the IPSC is international as well, and the most awards are held by a French man, so US kinda sucks a little at that too.

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[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

It's like football, americans rule american football.

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[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 50 points 3 months ago

American shooting is a lot more flash than precision.

Legitimately there's a category of shooting sports that's about the most efficient use of WWI trenchgun style slam firing, which is basically abusing the reload speed on that class of shotgun to convert it into a semi-auto.

We literally made a sport out of what the enemy tried to get classed as a war crime as an act of spite and you're wondering why we not so good at traditional marksmanship? It's a level of decorum that America was basically founded as a fuck you against.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago

Legitimately there’s a category of shooting sports that’s about the most efficient use of WWI trenchgun style slam firing, which is basically abusing the reload speed on that class of shotgun to convert it into a semi-auto.

For those who aren't sure what slamfiring a shotgun is

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[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 47 points 3 months ago

Pfft. I used to bulls-eye womp rats in my T-16 back home.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 35 points 3 months ago

Stop bragging and go over to Tosche Station. We're totally out of power converters.

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 39 points 3 months ago

If they had a mass shooting category we would cleanup. Who wants to shoot just one bullet at a time

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

Where Americans lack in quality, they make up in quantity.

[-] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 38 points 3 months ago

Competition shooter here. Olympic shooting is boring as hell.

Americans place really well in IPSC, USPSA, and 3gun.

The IPSC rifle world shot is happening right now in Finland.

[-] aidan@lemmy.world 43 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

USPSA

It would be a little strange if Americans didn't place well in United States Practical Shooting Association competitions

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[-] rickdg@lemmy.world 30 points 3 months ago

That’s why muricans need assault rifles.

[-] Marthirial@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago

Even Guatemala got their first ever gold metal and it was on shooting and she broke the Olympic record.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

Nice! Congratulations, Guatemala!

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago

We love shooting guns, doesn't mean we're any good at accuracy!

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[-] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

Not fair, they won't even allow pre-ban machine guns firing tracer bullets in five round bursts.

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[-] chemicalprophet@lemm.ee 19 points 3 months ago

They need to pack the targets in bunches of 20-25 and house them at an elementary school if you want these mouthbreathers to show interest😉

[-] CodeHead@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

No no... America has always been about quantity over quality. This proves that.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

At Olympic competition you just don't have black people or school children as targets. Which is a severe disadvantage for American shooters.

[-] Sarmyth@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

Olympic shooting has nothing to do with shooting of any other kind. The guns are custom made. Unless you are speficially training for the Olympics you'll likely never handle such a "weapon". I think using these guns is the equivalent to a running being able to use spring blades. I am not a gun owner but it feels like a pointless sport as done.

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