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[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 137 points 3 months ago

the party of "small government," once again, wants the government to police everything you do with your own junk

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

Women: "First time?"

[-] cupcakezealot 73 points 3 months ago

more than half the conservatives would be in jail

[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 102 points 3 months ago

Don't you worry, these laws won't apply to them.

[-] ssm@lemmy.sdf.org 56 points 3 months ago

probably will to some degree, one of the key defining traits of fascism is to make the in-group smaller and smaller

[-] drwho@beehaw.org 3 points 3 months ago

Only the ones that nobody liked anyway. The least useful part of the social group will get purged first. Always does.

[-] cy@fedicy.us.to 72 points 3 months ago

I like the "book 5 | pdf: 37" part it makes it look like you're quoting the Bible.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

That's what got me too. It's all pretty hilarious when put that way.

[-] ssm@lemmy.sdf.org 68 points 3 months ago

nothing to hide nothing to fear and anti-2A mofos when they read any part of project 2025

[-] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago
[-] SmoothIsFast@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

Anti gun

2A is the second amendment.

[-] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Thanks, had no idea

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

anti-2A mofos when they read any part of project 2025

Its easy to forget how the Blue Lives Matter crowd and the pro-2A crowd have some crazy overlap given how suicidal it is to be seen with anything vaguely shaped like a gun when you're anywhere near a cop.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago

go left enough and you get your guns back

[-] makeasnek@lemmy.ml 63 points 3 months ago

If you are an American and care about privacy:

  • Write your representatives. Your message can be as simple as "I care about privacy". It's important they know you are watching their votes.
  • Participate in elections, particularly downballot elections. Congressional makeup at the federal and state level matters a lot more for these kinds of things than who is president. Many recent laws like "right to repair" etc have happened at the state level since you can bypass federal congressional gridlock.
  • Participate in primaries. Most Americans do not vote, most voters do not vote in primaries. If you don't like having to choose "the lesser of two evils", primaries give you much much more choice to express your preferences. As a primary voter, you have an outsized influence on the electoral system and can help determine the options other people get to choose from.
  • Donate to PACs and non-profits working to protect your right to privacy. The EFF is an awesome non-profit. One benefit of donating to PACs is that they keep an eye on races across the country and help find and fund candidates who will advanced privacy legislation.
  • "Vote with your dollar" when you buy things. In many cases, your purchasing power outweighs the political power of your vote.
[-] ssm@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 3 months ago

arm yourself

[-] AlbertSpangler@lemmings.world 8 points 3 months ago
  • You've left it far too late
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[-] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago
[-] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

Oh don't worry, we've already implemented internet controls federally. They just are using the argument of "promoting Candian content"

[-] krolden@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago
[-] daltotron@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago

If that legitimately happens and makes it into law in a broadly enforceable way rather than a "this person who I don't like was caught checks notes watching porn! book em!", which is definitely what it would be like basically every law that came before it, I guarantee that the government would collapse within about three weeks if less. Which I think is maybe a good rule of thumb, that if your law would collapse society if it were enforced equally, it should not be a law.

Do not underestimate the power of the gooners when they are kept from the goon.

[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 months ago

These laws will never be used against those who are passing them.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

I guarantee that the government would collapse within about three weeks if less.

Oh sure. Famously, whenever a worksite implements a blacklist on pornographic websites, the workers immediately begin screaming and flailing and eating each others faces.

Do not underestimate the power of the gooners

Generally speaking, the power of the gooner is to compile 500 TB of questionably legal pornographic data on a PLEX server in their basements and ride out the porn-pocolypse as a bunch of horny hermits.

But the theory that this is going to be the last straw and hordes of angry horny dudes are going to take to the streets in a mass labor action is about as likely as the one where Tech Bros were going to take to the streets over Net Neutrality or women were going to have a sex boycott over the Abortion Ban or the hippies were going to tear down Wall Street over the drug war.

Americans are shockingly pliant and far more prone to simply turn to black market cartels than actively resist policing.

[-] daltotron@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

I was being hyperbolic, but, a famous part of the prohibition was the organized crime which was both kind of naturally occurring at the time and was created specifically to traffic booze. Illegal material can't be protected by legal means, obviously, and so in order to trade it, you basically have to create your own police force, your own privatized military. a gang, a mob. That's how we got nascar and shit, the rumrunners. If you made porn illegal, I'd imagine it would just be added as kind of another form of valuable property which would be traded around by gangs which would see increased power and are kind of inherently anti-institutional. So, turning to black market cartels is a form of resisting policing, it's a form of anti-institutional action, I'd say, as it gives more economic power to anti-institutional organizations.

I'd also say, you know, I mean, the hippies did go to wall street in 2008, so that's something. We had the big liberal feminist pussy hat shit sometime after that, which I'm not as familiar with. More recently we had BLM which was possibly the highest level of street marching we've seen basically ever, and then we've seen like two riots to try and overturn elections, one of which was successful. We've seen more recent campus protests which are still constantly ongoing despite a lack of media attention. I don't think it's as absurd as you think, that something kind of stupid like porn getting banned might be the tipping point, especially considering the pretty steady upward trend that we've seen with political action concerning other somewhat disconnected issues.

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[-] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 months ago

Don't forget that Republicans consider pretty much anything featuring gays as sexual and pornographic.

[-] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

These laws are made to promote illegal porn sites.

[-] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 8 points 3 months ago
[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 18 points 3 months ago

Watching Republicans ban 4chan would be funny.

[-] ben_dover@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Americans getting dumber and dumber over the years. i thought the "stupid white men" era was the peak, but i stand corrected

[-] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

To everyone interested: Mullvad and IVPN accept XMR as payments and do not store logs.

Keep your bits going the way you want them lads

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

There's a certain special irony in Crypto-Bros like Peter Thiel and Elon Musk bankrolling JD Vance so he can push Project 2025 through Congress and force gooners to kickback a rent to Crypto-Bros in order to jerk it.

Libertarian Dystopia here we come!

[-] Supermariofan67@programming.dev 3 points 3 months ago

I'm pretty sure there's nearly zero overlap between Monero users/people who actually use cryptocurrency as payment and "crypto bros" (those who use Bitcoin and shitcoins as investments)

[-] Sprokes@jlai.lu 11 points 3 months ago

Like the US will shut down a multi billion industry.

[-] uriel238 40 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

No, like Prohibition, everyone will keep some around, and the laws will only be enforced against non-whites, non-Christians and uppity women. Oh and gays are right out.

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[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago

Canada will be implementing very similar to this Poilievre gets elected.

[-] Vlixz@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

My Phone would be considered nuclear waste in the US apparently...... Oโ _โ o

[-] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago

Streisand Effect here we... cum?

[-] en1gma@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago

Nip it in the bud.

[-] Rez@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

How about you stop assuming everyone on the internet lives in the USA?

[-] uzi@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago

Project 2025 is 100% political and partisan. Due to that, there are false claims being made about Project 2025.

I condem the organization but not all statements are true due to it's entirely political nature.

[-] Dhs92@programming.dev 60 points 3 months ago

Wdym they literally have a massive PDF hosted on their website that you can download and read.

[-] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 41 points 3 months ago

Politicos hate when you read their own words back to them

[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

Perhaps there are some false claims, but this isn't one of them. This is their proxy for making being openly gay illegal again because they consider any queer representation to be pornographic.

[-] Taps4366@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago

I really don't get the fearmongering around Project 2025. It's just a piece the Heritage Foundation released as a giant wishlist. Trump himself said he didnt support it over on Truth Social. And if congress is still split, there will be total gridlock, so even IF this was the official party platform, nothing would get done.

There is a lot of solid ideas in the document, but there is also a lot of hot dogwater.

As for porn, it is protected under the 1st amendment. There has been several court cases about this. If a law was passed, it would be challenged and likely struck down. Having said the most of the rhetoric in the document really points to the availability of books like Gender Queer being freely available in school libraries. This wasn't explicitly stated in the document, but you can draw conclusions from the context of the rhetoric. But yes one of the authors said they wanted porn banned.

Now, preventing kids from accessing porn is a reasonable ask, but this ask has to come with a measure of privacy. Nobody wants their ID floating around in a PornHub database being tied to the type of porn they watch.

Along the same lines, parents should have a say in what books their child is allowed to consume within reason. I read gender queer out of curiosity after all of the outrage about it. That book should not be free to grab by minors. Perhaps there should be a "restricted section" accessible via permission slip from the parents. That way the books can remain present and accessable to those whose parents say it's okay. It's just an idea, but one that I have yet to see floated.

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[-] mastobit@awscommunity.social 3 points 3 months ago
[-] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 6 points 3 months ago

You don't need to mention people when replying to them.

[-] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago

it's a reply from a Mastodon account, which automatically tags people you're writing your reply to.

[-] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 7 points 3 months ago

How annoying

[-] DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone 3 points 3 months ago

Maybe in your silly country.

[-] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

VPN into some country that isn't the US of A.

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