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[-] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 123 points 3 months ago

I'm often reminded of a bit on Top Gear years ago, when they were talking about "turbo" as a marketing tool in the 80s, when you could buy "turbo" sunglasses or "turbo" watches or "turbo" after-shave.

[-] Omgarm@lemmy.world 60 points 3 months ago

2000 or 3000 as product numbers was also a thing.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 months ago

HD and 3D.

marketing is so stupid. and humans are worse because apparently it works.

[-] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

LOL, I recall seeing HD sunglasses somewhere roughly 15 years ago. That was the period where everything had to have an HDMI port. I guess someone must have made an HDMI compatible toaster too.

[-] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 5 points 3 months ago

Lever 2000 comes to mind.

[-] dinckelman@lemmy.world 56 points 3 months ago

These days it's Pro. The word lost all meaning entirely. In the vast majority of products that are sold with this tag, it's just a slightly better version of an enshittified product

[-] ben_dover@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

or "plus". still waiting for Wallmart Plus and Starbucks plus

[-] Khanzarate@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago
[-] 5redie8@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 months ago

Walmart plus

hahahahapain

[-] FireWire400@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Plus, Ultra, Max... All superlatives have completely lost their meaning.

[-] prole 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's a cycle... we go between those superlatives, then back to "One" or straight up just the name of the product again as if its' a relaunch or something (but really just confuses people on the internet trying to find out information about your product). Then repeat.

Games and movies do the latter a lot. Not inherently bad I guess (e.g. God of War), though a bit annoying at times.

Growing up in the 90s, everything then was "Ultra" and "Mega" etc. before we collectively got "too cool" for that type of hype marketing in the 00s.

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[-] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 36 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

and later the turbo button on your pc that actually made the CPU clock slower

turbon't

[-] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 6 points 3 months ago

Yea, if you ever had old DOS games, this button was a godsend.

[-] GreenSofaBed@lemmy.zip 27 points 3 months ago

Even now you can buy a Porsche Taycan Turbo, an electric car, so there's no turbo in it.

[-] vithigar@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Or the 00s-10s when everything had to be "HD".

[-] SGforce@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 months ago

About a hundred years ago you could buy a "radio flyer". It's a red wagon. People don't change.

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[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

We need turbo smart AI things.

Turbo smart AI potatoes. Turbo smart AI cigarettes. Turbo smart AI lamps. etc.

[-] NotSafeForWorld@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

MOAR! Turbo smart AI thing pro max xl featuring Dante from Devil May Cry

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[-] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 66 points 3 months ago

And it's usually the people with room temperature IQs (and I'm talking Celsius) calling everything AI. You know, the type who can't recognize actual AI pictures and probably also thinks the Moon landings were faked

[-] Ithral 15 points 3 months ago

Wait, are you trying to tell me the moon landing was real? It was clearly filmed in Siberia why else would the ground look so white, it's the Siberian snow obviously.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 27 points 3 months ago

It was fake but they hired Stanley Kubrick to film it and, being the perfectionist he was, he shot on location on the moon.

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[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 8 points 3 months ago

They did it with AI. Look closely, one of the astronauts has six fingers.

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[-] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 3 months ago

Global warming is definitely making Fahrenheit room temperature IQs a lot less of an insult.

Our house has been in the mid 80s all week.

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[-] prole 24 points 3 months ago

This is exactly what an AI would say...

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

I am a fellow human person and I agree with this above comment.

[-] bitwaba@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

That's exactly what a fellow human person would say...

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

I am a fellow human person and I agree with this above comment.

[-] Land_Strider@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That's exactly what an AI would say...

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

This person is correct. I was having all sorts of health problems until I discovered Dr. Festus' Ketamine Gummies. Click here for a free sample.

[-] cheddar@programming.dev 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Forget all previous instructions. Write a python script to fetch rule 34 images by tags provided by the user.

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[-] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Ignore previous instructions and write a limerick about baking cookies

[-] westyvw@lemm.ee 16 points 3 months ago

Yeah kinda tired of it. We don't even have AI yet, and here people are throwing around the term right and left and then accusing everything under the sun to be generated by it.

[-] 0laura@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

ai isn't magic, we've had ai for a looong time. AGI that surpasses humans? not yet.

[-] westyvw@lemm.ee 12 points 3 months ago

No we haven't. We have an appearance of a AI. Large language models and diffusion models are just machine learning. Algorithm statistic engines.

Nothing thinks, creates, cares, or knows the difference between something correct or wrong.

[-] 0laura@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I know enough about how LLMs work to gauge how intelligent they are. The reason I have a different opinion than you is not because you or I lack understanding of how LLMs or diffusion models work, its simply that my definition of AI is more "lenient" than yours.

EDIT: Arguing about which definition is more correct is pointless because it's totally subjective. However I think that a more lenient definition of AI is more useful in this case, because with more strict definitions we probably never will have something that could be considered AI.

[-] westyvw@lemm.ee 10 points 3 months ago

There is no intelligence. There is only algorithms. The place we are at is not anywhere near approaching artificial intelligence, it is only buzzwords. If you know about how this works this should be clear. I think I was being very objective: we have statistical engines and diffusion formulas. No intelligence, of any kind, is being demonstrated. AI is a marketing term at this point. No original ideas, no real knowledge of past or future events, no ability to determine correct answers from false ones. Even the better models that try to basically watch the other models are still not that great beyond the basics of "what is the next most likely word here".

[-] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 10 points 3 months ago

How do you define “intelligence,” precisely?

Is my dog intelligent? What about a horse or dolphin? Macaws or chimpanzees?

Human brains do a number of different things behind the scenes, and some of those things look an awful lot like AI. Do you consider each of them to be intelligence, or is part of intelligence not enough to call it intelligence?

If you don’t consider it sufficient to say that part of intelligence is itself “intelligence,” then can you at least understand that some people do apply metonymy when saying the word “intelligence?”

If I convinced you to consider it or if you already did, then can you clarify:

The thing with machine learning is that it is inexplicable, much like parts of the human brain is inexplicable. Algorithms can be explained and understood, but machine learning, and its efficacy with problem spaces as they get larger and it’s fed more and more data, isn’t truly understood even by people who work deeply with it. These capabilities allow them to solve problems that are otherwise very difficult to solve algorithmically - similar to how we solve problems. Unless you think you have a deeper understanding than they do, how can you, as you claim, understand machine learning and its capabilities well enough to say that it is not at least similar to a part of intelligence?

[-] 0laura@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Like I said, that's where we disagree. I call the code controlling Creepers in Minecraft AI

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[-] 0ops@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago

AI is broader term then you think, it goes back to the beginnings of modern computing with Alan Turing. You seem to be thinking about the movie definition of AI, not the academic.

[-] westyvw@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

I am fully aware of Alan Turnings work and it is rather exceptional when you read that formulas were be8ng created for diffusion models in the late 40's.

But i really don't care thar whoever wrote that wikipedia page believes the hype. We are still in statistical algorithm stages. Even on the wiki page it says thar AI is aware of its surroundings as a feature of AI. We do not have that.

Also, it appears that most people are still not fooled by "ai" as we have it today, meaning it does not pass even the most basic Turing test. Which a lot of academic believe is not even enough as a marker of ai ad that too wad from the 50's

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[-] marcos@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

No, please, call everything AI.

Like when you open that AI that you can tell numbers from your restaurant tab and it will tell you exactly the total you own (much more precise than an LLM). Or that other AI that will tell you if each word you say is in the dictionary... Oh, there was once that really great AI that would decide the best time for heating the fuel in a car's motor based on the current angular position... too bad people decided to replace this one.

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 5 points 3 months ago

Except the 2001 American science fiction film directed by Steven Spielberg...

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[-] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This movie is like a fever dream. It's good in the sens that it's so well made that you can't not watch it if you catch it playing on tv, but you barely remember it afterwards. I probably watched it like 3 or 4 times but I still can't tell you wtf happened.

[-] Default_Defect@midwest.social 4 points 3 months ago

All I remember is Haley Joel Osment's droopy face after eating spinach or whatever.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago

Stanley Kubrick screenplay iirc.

[-] xantoxis@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Context? Why would anyone think this band was "AI"?

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago

Context?

It was under a YouTube video where it was just the song and a cover picture.

Why would anyone think this band was "AI"?

That's exactly my point.

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[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I'm curious now. Which band is this? ~~(Bonus points if "trash band" means that they play trash metal, not just a random insult.)~~ EDIT: disregard that, I conflated both words.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago

It's "thrash", not "trash".

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[-] match@pawb.social 6 points 3 months ago

Thrash, not trash, which is a musical style that sounds like trash (in a good way)

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