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I dunno... in a way, that's representation in its purest form - angry, stupid Republicans have one of their own in office.
I wouldn’t mind that as much if it were actual proportional representation.
There'd be way more stupid people in office then lol.
But there'd be more poor and collar workers too which would HOPEFULLY get more progressive legislation on the board...
Or more MAGA crazies so...
MAGA crazies are dramatically over represented in politics because of gerrymandering and FPTP voting systems.
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🇷🇺 Russian representation
People no say Marge smart. MARGE SMASH
Bet you she claims that the history books have been changed by the Demoncrats
Or the Jewish space lasers
Firecracker
I rolled my eyes at first during that. Then realized it actually happened in real life, and got a little more depressed.
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I see your shwartz is as big as mine. Touché.
Her flowchart must be Charlie from It's Always Sunny.
I thought she just got caught with a live question. But no, she hand crafted this claim with all the time in the world and still utterly biffed it. What a joke.
You guys have to look at it in context. She IS representing her district. She's actually above average around those parts. It's sad and off putting when viewed through your eyes but in her district she is a towering intellect, the likes of which will rarely be repeated in the future. We should all celebrate her efforts to participate in representative government.
The killer bit is apparently she looked up their ages in 1776 and just didn't bother confirming who signed.
From here:
https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/signers-factsheet
Yeah, average age was 44.51.
56 people signed it.
Oldest was Ben Franklin at 70.
Youngest were Thomas Lynch Jr. and Edward Ruteledge, both 26.
28 people were under the age of 45.
smart, mentally stable people never get in to politics and instead find enjoyable work they can be proud of.
Counterpoint: Bernie
Yes. Edge cases are fun to point out.
"Never" is asking for one
My God, how does such an ignorant, sophomoric, and patently ignorant take have so many upvotes on Lemmy? Some of the most intelligent and kind people I know have gone into politics, but mostly have just been local.
But even at the top, without even thinking I can point to Obama who went to Harvard law.
Granted, I agree that politics does not select specifically for intelligence, as mtg among many others prove, but the idea that smart and mentally stable people don't go into politics is just ridiculously stupid.
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Well, you can’t know everything about everything, that’s why you have to collaborate with other experts so you can supplement each others knowledge.
But every job has some reasonable expectations of knowledge and standards because that’s what doing it competently requires.
Why is basic history and civics important for a congressperson? You’re essentially helping right laws and regulations which will impact generations to come, and if you’re uninformed you may be open to being manipulated or mislead. The double danger for anyone in congress is that foreign interests can also mislead or manipulate for malicious reasons, and not just greed reasons.
So expecting basic level of information from a congressperson isn’t elitism, I’d say it’s a matter of homeland and national security.
The right wing have spent decades spinning competence, experience, education, etc...as elitism. Having hiring/firing power and billions at your command? That's not elitism. Knowing things, and saying it out loud - that's the REAL elitism.
I think that's partly why the "term limits" mantra (and the ageism that often goes with it) is rather annoying. The anti-intellectualism that is typically at root of that is why.
Yeah, she does strike me as a "Herby Hancock" kind of person.
Every presidential election in my lifetime has had a candidate that has been attacked as "the dumb one" and another that has been attacked as "the smart evil one" (note: the might not be this, but they were attacked as if they were this)
The "dumb one" has won every time.
Wait! Obama was the dumb one and John McCain the smart? D:
TBF McCain was spot on on Putin in a way that Obama was not.
Obama was seen as severely lacking in foreign policy credentials, he was only in his first Senate term and didn't have any other national political experience before running in 2008. That was part of the reason he picked Biden for VP in the first place, it offered some reassurance for voters who thought Obama was weak on foreign policy.
Even so, when Putin invaded Crimea in 2014 Obama kind of just yawned and let him. The UN passed a few resolutions, but that was that. I don't think Biden would have rolled over if he were President at the time. I think if you asked Biden about any major disagreements he had with Obama, that might be at the top of the list.
I also think McCain would have handled it differently, too. He would have made a good President, even if I would have disagreed with him more. He was better than the absolute trash the GOP puts up these days.
And yet everything else policy wise he was a dinosaur.
That would rule out voting for most Republicans, though. I think the Republican brand is all about not appearing smarter than anyone else - or, better yet, actually being quite stupid and not just having to play stupid - because being smart and knowing things is considered "elitist" by the con base.
They have subverted the definition of elitism to carve out exceptions for the actual elitists, to the point where donnie is considered (by them) to be for the little man, while simultaneously supposedly being a business magnate with billions to his name. Nothing elitist about having billions, and being given half a billion by your father, I guess.
LOL, that perfectly captures the BS talking point about having an "outsider" instead of an actual expert. I love it!
I often notice that people that clamor for term limits and for "outsiders" to run government are not pining for outsiders to pilot planes they are on, drill their teeth, fix their roofs, prepare their taxes, defend them in court, and so on.
Another problem is their definition of outsider. A rich, corporate douchebag is not.
That should instantly disqualify her from holding office. You should have a basic understanding of American history in order to govern properly, and it's obvious she doesn't know shit about the history of this country despite arrogantly acting like she does.
I don't think the barrier should be "do you know history trivia?' but rather "can you read and understand a wikipedia article?"
Except that would immediately turn into Jim Crow era literacy tests and be used for evil. You'd want an electorate that cares and a press that asks revealing questions, though.
I mean the Jim crow literacy test thing was used against voters. These are people that are supposed to govern. I kinda draw a distinction there.
Yes I do believe that voters and the press should be caring more and asking more revealing questions, but media literacy in this country is low, voter involvement is low, and our press is nothing more than arms of the ruling class so they rarely ever ask the necessary questions to allow voters to truly understand who's on the ballot.
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I can excuse someone for not knowing details because not everybody is a history major (hell I don't even know who all signed that document), but these people build their whole identity and politics around jingoism, so they better back it up.
I had to pass a civics test to get out of 8th grade. Why is it not required for someone to be a congressperson?
let me ask the major news corps about this
"have you considered that her being in congress gets us a lot of ad revenue as we write articles about how we read twitter posts? eat shit" - corporate media
It’s going to be an awkward conversation but she is officially off the trivia team. If she thinks I’m switching trains to get to Capital Hill just to lose, she’s got another fact to learn.
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It's at a point where I feel sorry for her but the real losers are those that vote for this moron
I thought she would be finished when she was going on about Jewish space lasers. But that is my fault for thinking they would get rid of their jester.
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I would if any smart people ever ran for office.
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