Popular vote dont get you shit here.

She lost the race in swing states where "independents" choose the winner. If she had been "John Clinton," with every single bit of the politcal baggage and none of the sexist baggage, I guarantee she would have cleared that 80k vote hurdle in those 3 states.

Joe would have won that election, let alone Bernie. It would have been a different world today

I think people underestimate how much the Clinton name helped her even when the sexism hurt her. Beyond maybe Michelle Obama now, I can't think of any other woman out there likely to perform as well as Hilary did. During the race, I heard more than one person make comments along the lines of "If she's in trouble, she can just call her husband". She definitely got a lot more points from the Clinton name than she lost for being a woman. It's a sad world sometimes, yall.

I personally think Bill Clinton's brother Roger could have won that race even with all his controversies and the fact that he has zero qualifications.

I remember the conservatives I worked with hated H. Clinton for "wanting to take our guns away." I told her (it was a white 20 year old girl I was talking to specifically in this group) that whole idea is untrue.

Clinton didn't lose because of her horrible treatment of Africans, her philosophy that abortion should be a states' right issue, because she is a woman, etc. She lost because the "Dems want our guns" propaganda. Conservatives are a simple breed.

Yeah, unfortunately, there's a calculus here that isn't entirely clear. The right-wing, the accelerationists, and the Russian shills are all on board with this because they THINK it's a losing proposition for the Democrats. However, whether it is ACTUALLY a losing proposition is... uncertain.

We live in a fucked-up political era. I think a replacement could go either way. I'm not thrilled about the idea, but we're rolling the dice either way, so I'm not going to let either outcome change my disposition much. What I know is that I'm voting against fascism this November, and anyone who expresses doubts as to whether THEY'RE voting against fascism are, at best, useful idiots for fascism, and at worst, fascists who are too cowardly to admit it.

I want Biden replaced. Guess I'm a Russian shill? JFC

sigh

. . . Ok.

If Whitmer’s all-in and everyone super swears she can be a charming candidate for two months, fine. I want it noted my preference is Whitmer/AOC but I appreciate the optics.

Goddammit. If it gets us a reprieve from diseased lunatics for four years, fine.

You’re right, not just Russian Trolls, but wannabe fascists and naive fools here in the US. Anyone who doesn’t see the absolute disaster that Trump will be, and instead “BoTh SiDeS” things or uses “GeNoCiDe JoE” is just an absolute fool.

He lost to Greg Abbott too.

There's really no reason to jump to him rather than someone already in national politics, but winning a senate seat in Texas is actually harder than winning the presidency.